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seymore  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 2:08 am
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From: seymore <seymoredonk...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:08:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: more on hacked CRU 'global warming' computer files...
Global Warming’s Blue Dress Moment? The CRU EMail Hack Scandal
November 20th, 2009 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

The recent hacking of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic
Research Unit (CRU) computer system has led to the release of
hundreds, if not thousands, of e-mails which — if real — reveal the
tactics and motivations of some of the top Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) scientists. I hesitate to name names, but there
are several websites now buzzing with all of the details and sample e-
mails. The e-mails I have seen appear genuine, with obscure scientific
details and language that would take considerable effort to create as
part of a hoax. A few of the sites covering this unfolding story are:

While it is too early to tell just yet, there seems to be considerable
damning evidence that data have been hidden or destroyed to avoid
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) data requests; data have been
manipulated in order to get results that best suit the pro-
anthropogenic global warming agenda of the IPCC; e-mails that contain
incriminating discussions are being deleted. And, on the bright side,
we skeptics seem to be quite a thorn in the side of the IPCC.

In reading these e-mails from the ‘other side’ of the scientific
debate I am particularly amazed at the mindset of a few of these
scientists. I exchange e-mails with other like-minded (read
‘skeptical’) scientists, as do the IPCC scientists with their peers.
But never do I hear of anyone manipulating climate data to achieve a
certain end. I must say that I am pleased to see that NCAR scientist
Kevin Trenberth admits that it is a “travesty” that no one can explain
the lack of global warming in recent years.

I think there is a good chance that this was an inside job…either a
disgruntled employee at CRU, or someone who is simply getting fed up
with the politicization of the IPCC’s science and wanted to reveal
some of the inner workings of the IPCC process. I’m sure that further
revelations will arise in the coming days.

As of this writing, the BBC is the first mainstream news source to
cover the story. But instead of discussing the content of any of the e-
mails, the BBC is focusing on the illegal nature of the computer
system breach. An expert was quoted who alluded to the contentious
nature of the global warming debate, and how both sides would resort
to tricks to help their side.

That’s pretty rich. If the hacked e-mails — with incriminating content
— just happened to be Sarah Palin’s, does ANYONE believe that news
reports would avoid disclosing the content of those e-mails?

MORE AT:

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/11/global-warmings-blue-dress-moment...

(hehe! if this is real it's gonna fuck up the wad in many lefty
lunatic warmer panties!)


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Séimí mac Liam  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 11:39 pm
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From: "Séimí mac Liam" <gwyd...@comcast.nospam.net>
Date: 21 Nov 2009 22:39:43 GMT
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 11:39 pm
Subject: Re: more on hacked CRU 'global warming' computer files...
seymore <seymoredonk...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:dc629a00-0ce0-4549-b73d-7d5001f0015c@x31g2000yqx.googlegroups.com:

Quotes from the NY Times article on this:

' Some skeptics asserted Friday that the correspondence revealed an
effort to withhold scientific information. “This is not a smoking gun;
this is a mushroom cloud,” said Patrick J. Michaels, a climatologist who
has long faulted evidence pointing to human-driven warming and is
criticized in the documents.'

and again:

'In a 1999 e-mail exchange about charts showing climate patterns over the
last two millenniums, Phil Jones, a longtime climate researcher at the
East Anglia Climate Research Unit, said he had used a “trick” employed by
another scientist, Michael Mann, to “hide the decline” in temperatures.'

Just in time for Copenhagen, too.

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Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the  court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99


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seymore  
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 More options Nov 22 2009, 12:22 am
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From: seymore <seymoredonk...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:22:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 22 2009 12:22 am
Subject: Re: more on hacked CRU 'global warming' computer files...
On Nov 21, 4:39 pm, "Séimí mac Liam" <gwyd...@comcast.nospam.net>
wrote:

I'll not expect the copenhagen crowd to pay much attention.

...or ANY of the main stream liberal media.

JD


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 More options Nov 23 2009, 7:27 pm
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From: "Séimí mac Liam" <gwyd...@comcast.nospam.net>
Date: 23 Nov 2009 18:27:16 GMT
Local: Mon, Nov 23 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: more on hacked CRU 'global warming' computer files...
seymore <seymoredonk...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Seems the warmers here aren't much interested either.  Who'd a thunk it?

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 More options Nov 24 2009, 12:46 am
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From: "Jan" <oggielo...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:46:23 GMT
Local: Tues, Nov 24 2009 12:46 am
Subject: Re: more on hacked CRU 'global warming' computer files...

"Séimí mac Liam" <gwyd...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCC6A07658F9Sim@74.209.136.81...

The silence is to be expected.<g> After all, why let a few facts spoil a
good
panic.

Jan


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