>>>> Hell, I had to live in an old house or two when I first got >>>>> married. I even had to get by with old furniture. Don't feel bad. >>>>> I'm sure you'll do better as time goes on.
>>>> Snort! I'm stuck in a modern house and I'd give my eye teeth to live >>>> in an old house again. I also loathe new furniture. It's badly made >>>> (even the expensive stuff). It dates too quickly and scratches and >>>> damages too easily. Give me a piece of furniture made of solid wood >>>> that can be steamed to remove the dents and that develops a patina with >>>> time and care rather than just ending up looking tatty and suffering >>>> from flaking, chipping, cracking, separating or sagging irreparably.
>>> Woolworths never did make what you could call really good furniture.
>> You've learned from your experiences. You'll make better choices next >> time.
>> That might work in the US but really you foreigners have no idea of the >> lack of competitiveness of your home grown products in the world market.
> AAMOF, Ethan Allen furniture is higher quality and more expensive than I > need, although I've bought some of it in earlier years when I was raising > chillun.
> We've seen what "quality furniture" is to you Euro peons. Ikea furniture > is absolute cack, and bought only by impoverished college students.
Having never been into an Ikea store, I'll defer to your knowledge of their product.
We insist
> upon quality. Having said that, I have an 11 year old hardwood dining > room set made in Indonesia or summars similar. We used up all our native > hardwoods, and like you, have foolishly not replanted more.
You're welcome to it. I don't like Asian made furniture. It's the Eastern equivalent of Ikea.
"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message > FarmI wrote: >> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> Hell, I had to live in an old house or two when I first got >>> married. I even had to get by with old furniture. Don't feel bad. I'm >>> sure you'll do better as time goes on.
>> Snort! I'm stuck in a modern house and I'd give my eye teeth to live in >> an old house again. I also loathe new furniture. It's badly made (even >> the expensive stuff). It dates too quickly and scratches and damages too >> easily. Give me a piece of furniture made of solid wood that can be >> steamed to remove the dents and that develops a patina with time and care >> rather than just ending up looking tatty and suffering from flaking, >> chipping, cracking, separating or sagging irreparably. > Once again, we sound so alike!
:-)) Bit of a worry isn't it. Poor old Phxbrd will start to wonder which of us is the furriner if we're not more careful.
I totally agree on both counts.
> And, unfortunately I am in and will be in newer houses. I sure hope I > have some energy left to rectify that....
I'm working on it but having no luck to date. Himself seems happy as a pig in manure here and sadly, if we do move we'd need about 8 garages and there arent' too many places with that many.
> One irony about furnishings is that items from antiques shops etc. can be > cheaper than that ubiquitous cheap stuff. And those things just end up in > the trash or being unappreciated as time passes.
Yup. And have you noticed how all modern chairs have no adequate lumbar support and are way too long in the sqab? They all seem to be made for people who loll like slobs rather than sit. To get out of them from that lolling position you have to throw your legs in the air and jack knife your body to an upright position.
"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message > from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>> We've seen what "quality furniture" is to you Euro peons. Ikea >> furniture is >> absolute cack, and bought only by impoverished college students.
> IKEA is cheap and cheerful flatpack; nobody pretends its high > quality but some of it, is excellent value.
> Here's where I get furniture made to order (in oak) , to my exact > design, size and specification, beautifully finished; but still not very > expensive
Viscount Linley and my woodwork teacher both attended Parnham House. Bet my teacher wishes he was doing as well as Linley instead of heading off to teach in the US at some expensive woodworking school.
> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7lic39F3e999eU1@mid.individual.net... >> Sacha wrote: >>> On 2009-11-06 08:56:32 +0000, "Joy" <toas...@real-me.net> said: >>> <snip>
>>>> Catalina, Frazier Island, Kangaroo Island and Tasmania all have their >>>> charms. I think that's all the islands I've visited - unless you count >>>> England. ;-)
>>>> Joy
>>> I think England's a bit big for my personal category! ;-)
>> It must be pointed out that England is not an island. Not in the true >> meaning of the word. England is only a part of the British Isles. >> /quote/ >> The British Isles is a group of Islands off the North West Coast of >> Europe.
>> There are two large islands, and over 1000 small islands.
>> The largest of the two main islands is called Great Britain, and contains >> England, Scotland to the north and Wales to the West.
>> The other large island is called Ireland and contains The Republic of >> Ireland and the province of Northern Ireland in the north east.
>> The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland includes >> England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and most of the small >> islands, and The Republic of Ireland is a separate, sovereign country >> made up of the larger, southern part of Ireland.
>> Some Irish people dislike the term "British Isles" as it implies that The >> Republic belongs to Great Britain, which it does not.
>> /end of quote/
>> Bobbie
> Thanks for the geography lesson. With my limited knowledge of geography, > to me a part of a group of islands is an island. I realize that Wales is > also part of the same island, but I can't feel too distressed over my > error.
Don't let the Welsh hear you say that. Very nationalist are the Welsh.
FarmI wrote: > "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message >> FarmI wrote: >>> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> Hell, I had to live in an old house or two when I first got >>>> married. I even had to get by with old furniture. Don't feel bad. I'm >>>> sure you'll do better as time goes on. >>> Snort! I'm stuck in a modern house and I'd give my eye teeth to live in >>> an old house again. I also loathe new furniture. It's badly made (even >>> the expensive stuff). It dates too quickly and scratches and damages too >>> easily. Give me a piece of furniture made of solid wood that can be >>> steamed to remove the dents and that develops a patina with time and care >>> rather than just ending up looking tatty and suffering from flaking, >>> chipping, cracking, separating or sagging irreparably. >> Once again, we sound so alike!
> :-)) Bit of a worry isn't it. Poor old Phxbrd will start to wonder which > of us is the furriner if we're not more careful.
> I totally agree on both counts. >> And, unfortunately I am in and will be in newer houses. I sure hope I >> have some energy left to rectify that....
> I'm working on it but having no luck to date. Himself seems happy as a pig > in manure here and sadly, if we do move we'd need about 8 garages and there > arent' too many places with that many.
>> One irony about furnishings is that items from antiques shops etc. can be >> cheaper than that ubiquitous cheap stuff. And those things just end up in >> the trash or being unappreciated as time passes.
> Yup. And have you noticed how all modern chairs have no adequate lumbar > support and are way too long in the sqab? They all seem to be made for > people who loll like slobs rather than sit. To get out of them from that > lolling position you have to throw your legs in the air and jack knife your > body to an upright position.
And that is particularly bad as one grows older. ...
>"Gordon H" <Gordon_N...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message >news:YmBSYvCvbC9KFw7d@g3snx.demon.co.uk... >> In message <7lic39F3e999...@mid.individual.net>, Bobbie >> <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> writes
>>>Some Irish people dislike the term "British Isles" as it implies that The >>>Republic belongs to Great Britain, which it does not.
>>>Bobbie
>> The Irish should get out of England. >> -- >> Gordon H
>Who'd work?
We need 'em working for more than 6 months, then skedaddling back to Ireland for the rest of the year to dodge taxes. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
>> It must be pointed out that England is not an island. Not in the true >> meaning of the word. England is only a part of the British Isles. >> /quote/ >> The British Isles is a group of Islands off the North West Coast of >> Europe.
>> There are two large islands, and over 1000 small islands.
>> The largest of the two main islands is called Great Britain, and contains >> England, Scotland to the north and Wales to the West.
>> The other large island is called Ireland and contains The Republic of >> Ireland and the province of Northern Ireland in the north east.
>> The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland includes England, >> Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and most of the small islands, and >> The Republic of Ireland is a separate, sovereign country made up of the >> larger, southern part of Ireland.
>> Some Irish people dislike the term "British Isles" as it implies that The >> Republic belongs to Great Britain, which it does not.
>> /end of quote/
>> Bobbie
>Thanks for the geography lesson. With my limited knowledge of geography, to >me a part of a group of islands is an island. I realize that Wales is also >part of the same island, but I can't feel too distressed over my error.
>Joy
Although the British consider ourselves an island race, England alone is not an island, and with the increasing desire for the Scots and Welsh and Irish wanting devolution... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
In message <7lj8jbF3e5ig...@mid.individual.net>, Phxbrd <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> writes
>"Gordon H" <Gordon_N...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote
>> Many years ago a ski-jump was constructed within walking distance of where >> I live. Of course they had to make artificial snow... >> -- >> Gordon H
>Unless I'm mistaken, I believe that all or at least most ski resorts have >snow making equipment here in the colonies. They have too much invested to >lose at the whims of Mother Nature.
>Have you seen the indoor ski run in Japan?
No, but I have some video of my son on the indoor ski slope in Manchester, taken two years ago when the family were all here and my granddaughters saw snow for the first time.
Gordon H wrote: > In message <7lj8jbF3e5ig...@mid.individual.net>, Phxbrd > <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> writes
>> "Gordon H" <Gordon_N...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote
>>> Many years ago a ski-jump was constructed within walking distance of >>> where >>> I live. Of course they had to make artificial snow... >>> -- >>> Gordon H
>> Unless I'm mistaken, I believe that all or at least most ski resorts have >> snow making equipment here in the colonies. They have too much >> invested to >> lose at the whims of Mother Nature.
>> Have you seen the indoor ski run in Japan?
> No, but I have some video of my son on the indoor ski slope in > Manchester, taken two years ago when the family were all here and my > granddaughters saw snow for the first time.
Goodness, considering how many times I have been to Manchester, I didn't know this existed and it is something that Steve has never mentioned. It is amazing.
FarmI wrote: > "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message >> FarmI wrote: >>> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> Hell, I had to live in an old house or two when I first got >>>> married. I even had to get by with old furniture. Don't feel bad. I'm >>>> sure you'll do better as time goes on. >>> Snort! I'm stuck in a modern house and I'd give my eye teeth to live in >>> an old house again. I also loathe new furniture. It's badly made (even >>> the expensive stuff). It dates too quickly and scratches and damages too >>> easily. Give me a piece of furniture made of solid wood that can be >>> steamed to remove the dents and that develops a patina with time and care >>> rather than just ending up looking tatty and suffering from flaking, >>> chipping, cracking, separating or sagging irreparably. >> Once again, we sound so alike!
> :-)) Bit of a worry isn't it. Poor old Phxbrd will start to wonder which > of us is the furriner if we're not more careful.
> I totally agree on both counts. >> And, unfortunately I am in and will be in newer houses. I sure hope I >> have some energy left to rectify that....
> I'm working on it but having no luck to date. Himself seems happy as a pig > in manure here and sadly, if we do move we'd need about 8 garages and there > arent' too many places with that many.
>> One irony about furnishings is that items from antiques shops etc. can be >> cheaper than that ubiquitous cheap stuff. And those things just end up in >> the trash or being unappreciated as time passes.
> Yup. And have you noticed how all modern chairs have no adequate lumbar > support and are way too long in the sqab? They all seem to be made for > people who loll like slobs rather than sit. To get out of them from that > lolling position you have to throw your legs in the air and jack knife your > body to an upright position.
What a perfect description. It is why I chose to have an older suite re-upholstered, because it is classic style with an extremely good frame, more importantly it was and is really, really comfortable. John has a rather old but still good looking leather club chair that he likes to sit in to do crosswords and sudoku, but will happily snuggle in the evening.
In message <7llloaF3dhjg...@mid.individual.net>, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> writes
>Gordon H wrote: >>> Have you seen the indoor ski run in Japan?
>> No, but I have some video of my son on the indoor ski slope in >>Manchester, taken two years ago when the family were all here and my >>granddaughters saw snow for the first time. >> This isn't him, but I found it on You Tube: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5kiE0YQZTE&NR=1
>Goodness, considering how many times I have been to Manchester, I >didn't know this existed and it is something that Steve has never >mentioned. It is amazing.
>Bobbie
It's somewhere off the M60, on the West side, but I've never been. I always thought that only the mad English would invent a sport where you tie planks on the bottom of your shoes and slide down a snow-covered mountain. :-) -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
In message <7lligjF2st6c...@mid.individual.net>, Jean B. <jb...@rcn.com> writes
>FarmI wrote: >[snip] >> You're welcome to it. I don't like Asian made furniture. It's the >>Eastern equivalent of Ikea. >Antique Asian furniture can be quite nice!
That reminds me of a visit to a garden centre where they have a huge yard full of ancient stuff, like old motor cycles, washing machines, lawn mowers etc, and in one of the sheds there is some Eastern looking furniture. I'll try to find photos... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
> FarmI wrote: > [snip] >> You're welcome to it. I don't like Asian made furniture. It's the >> Eastern equivalent of Ikea. > Antique Asian furniture can be quite nice!
Some of it, but most of it cracks badly once out of the moister climates of Asia. And I'm not keen on any Indian furniture.
"Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > FarmI wrote: >> Yup. And have you noticed how all modern chairs have no adequate lumbar >> support and are way too long in the sqab? They all seem to be made for >> people who loll like slobs rather than sit. To get out of them from that >> lolling position you have to throw your legs in the air and jack knife >> your body to an upright position.
> What a perfect description.
:-)) Perhaps it's a perfect description because that is the way I get out of them. Thank god I have no physical infirmities yet. Not at all ladylike but then I have no pretensions to ever claim to be a lady.
It is why I chose to have an older suite
> re-upholstered, because it is classic style with an extremely good frame, > more importantly it was and is really, really comfortable. John has a > rather old but still good looking leather club chair that he likes to sit > in to do crosswords and sudoku, but will happily snuggle in the evening.
Sounds familiar. I too like older lounges with good bones and shape that can be recovered as needed.
I have an old wing chair which came from the British High Commission residence in Canberra (a lovely building for all you British Tax payers - just thought you'd like to know how well spent are your Taxes). It is a lovely chair to sit in - a real Goldilocks chair - not too high, not too long in the squab: just right. We also have a couple of elderly lounge suites that are comfortable. One of these will be thrown out when the dogs eventually cark it and the other will always stay with us.
> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message > news:31303030393032394AF4611461@zetnet.co.uk... >> The message <7likosF3e73o...@mid.individual.net> >> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>> Woolworths never did make what you could call really good furniture. >>> Try >>> Ethan Allen:
>> Much of which seems to be factory reproduction-antique European >> furniture with names like "British classic".
>> Janet
> (cough)
> "The firm adopted the name "Ethan Allen" for its early-American furniture > introduced in 1939. It was named after the Vermont Revolutionary leader."
Yup. Pure Americana, and still appreciated.
I liked the Colonial styles like that made back in the beginning. The Ethan Allen product is a winner in my book.
FarmI wrote: > "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:7lligjF2st6cjU1@mid.individual.net... >> FarmI wrote: >> [snip] >>> You're welcome to it. I don't like Asian made furniture. It's the >>> Eastern equivalent of Ikea. >> Antique Asian furniture can be quite nice!
> Some of it, but most of it cracks badly once out of the moister climates of > Asia. And I'm not keen on any Indian furniture.
Ah, that cracking problem is good to know. I wonder how long an item has to be in a less-humid clime before this occurs--or one is assured it isn't going to occur? For that matter, not all of Asia is humid....
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:31303030393032394AF4611461@zetnet.co.uk... >>> The message <7likosF3e73o...@mid.individual.net> >>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>> Woolworths never did make what you could call really good furniture. >>>> Try >>>> Ethan Allen:
>>> Much of which seems to be factory reproduction-antique European >>> furniture with names like "British classic".
>>> Janet
>> (cough)
>> "The firm adopted the name "Ethan Allen" for its early-American furniture >> introduced in 1939. It was named after the Vermont Revolutionary leader."
> Yup. Pure Americana, and still appreciated.
> I liked the Colonial styles like that made back in the beginning. The > Ethan Allen product is a winner in my book.
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:31303030393032394AF4611461@zetnet.co.uk... >>> The message <7likosF3e73o...@mid.individual.net> >>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>> Woolworths never did make what you could call really good furniture. >>>> Try >>>> Ethan Allen:
>>> Much of which seems to be factory reproduction-antique European >>> furniture with names like "British classic".
>>> Janet
>> (cough)
>> "The firm adopted the name "Ethan Allen" for its early-American furniture >> introduced in 1939. It was named after the Vermont Revolutionary leader."
> Yup. Pure Americana, and still appreciated.
> I liked the Colonial styles like that made back in the beginning. The > Ethan Allen product is a winner in my book.
> Norma
Aside from her family heirloom furniture, my mother had a houseful of Ethan Allen furniture. Her home and furnishings were Federal style.
>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:31303030393032394AF4611461@zetnet.co.uk... >>>> The message <7likosF3e73o...@mid.individual.net> >>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>> Woolworths never did make what you could call really good furniture. >>>>> Try >>>>> Ethan Allen:
>>>> Much of which seems to be factory reproduction-antique European >>>> furniture with names like "British classic".
>>>> Janet
>>> (cough)
>>> "The firm adopted the name "Ethan Allen" for its early-American >>> furniture >>> introduced in 1939. It was named after the Vermont Revolutionary >>> leader."
>> Yup. Pure Americana, and still appreciated.
>> I liked the Colonial styles like that made back in the beginning. The >> Ethan >> Allen product is a winner in my book.
>> Norma
> The American furniture I particularly remember admiring is the garden > stuff! Are they Adirondack chairs - sort of a rounded-fan shaped back > that's quite sloping? They're good to look at and very comfortable, too. > -- > Sacha
"Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message > FarmI wrote: >> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message >>> FarmI wrote: >>> [snip] >>>> You're welcome to it. I don't like Asian made furniture. It's the >>>> Eastern equivalent of Ikea. >>> Antique Asian furniture can be quite nice!
>> Some of it, but most of it cracks badly once out of the moister climates >> of Asia. And I'm not keen on any Indian furniture. > Ah, that cracking problem is good to know. I wonder how long an item has > to be in a less-humid clime before this occurs--or one is assured it isn't > going to occur?
Anything from a week to a couple of years from what I've heard.
For that matter, not all of Asia
> is humid....
The bits that Ozzies call Asia are humid, the bits that the Brits include in Asia aren't always.
It took me years of watching a certain Brit cop show to get used to the 'Asians' who were to my eye actually of sub-continental origins. Technically correct I know but here Asians are of the 'Far East' variety. 'Spose 'cos there's so many of them here.
> FarmI wrote: >> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> I'm an island addict; hooked from a very early age (7) when my >>> teacher used to read us letters from her brother >>> who was a rubber planter on Ceylon as it was then, Sri Lanka now; and >>> then by Gerald Durrells books about his childhood on Corfu. >>> I've been to both a couple of times and they are wonderful. Others we >>> love are the very small Channel Islands; the Scillies, Madeira, >>> and of course spoilt for choice at home. Scotland has around 800 >>> islands, 92 inhabited, and I live on one of them.
>> My favourite island is Tasmania. Lovely little towns an old world >> feeling, heaps and heaps of brilliant unfaffed about Georgian domestic >> architecture (probably better than the UK now) and lots of lovely sea >> food and to top that list off, it's close and it doesn't involve going >> through Customs and obnoxious Immigration officials. > And it has quite a history. > jingles
FarmI wrote: > "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message >> FarmI wrote: >>> "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote in message >>>> FarmI wrote: >>>> [snip] >>>>> You're welcome to it. I don't like Asian made furniture. It's the >>>>> Eastern equivalent of Ikea. >>>> Antique Asian furniture can be quite nice! >>> Some of it, but most of it cracks badly once out of the moister climates >>> of Asia. And I'm not keen on any Indian furniture. >> Ah, that cracking problem is good to know. I wonder how long an item has >> to be in a less-humid clime before this occurs--or one is assured it isn't >> going to occur?
> Anything from a week to a couple of years from what I've heard.
> For that matter, not all of Asia >> is humid....
> The bits that Ozzies call Asia are humid, the bits that the Brits include in > Asia aren't always.
> It took me years of watching a certain Brit cop show to get used to the > 'Asians' who were to my eye actually of sub-continental origins. > Technically correct I know but here Asians are of the 'Far East' variety. > 'Spose 'cos there's so many of them here.
Ah yes, I hadn't thought of how our definitions might vary!
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