> On 2009-11-06 11:35:44 +0000, "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> said:
>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:7li726F3dr9kmU2@mid.individual.net... >>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>>> news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: >>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>> together. >>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>> Janet >>>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a >>>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
>>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
>>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
>>> Bobbie;-)
>> I'm an Autumn.
> LOL! Very good! > -- > Sacha
It's true. I am. Betcha I'm the only man here to have been color draped.
>>>> "Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:7lh7t1F3e3iftU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 2009-11-05 22:24:10 +0000, "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> >>>>> said:
>>>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:31303030393032394AF3251809@zetnet.co.uk... >>>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>>> Janet
>>>>>> I would of, but I had a bone in my leg at the time.
>>>>> Oh my goodness - my grandmother used to use that expression!
>>>>> -- >>>>> Sacha
>>>> It must be a common affliction.
>>> Nothing common about my granny, thank you! >>> -- >>> Sacha
>> Why thank me if you took offense at my words??
> I didn't take offense, or even offence. > -- > Sacha
You foreigners sure do talk funny. Or should I say you foreigners do surely speak funnily? Sounds a bit stilted innit. See why we laugh at you?
In message <7lifa6F3e4l0...@mid.individual.net>, Phxbrd <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> writes
>If you think American sounds funny, you should hear what Ozzies sound like. >They speak neither American OR English. They seem to make good bartenders >though. Americans go to the bars they work in just to hear them talk.
So that's it! Nobody would go into a bar in America for the beer. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
"Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message >> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools together.
>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>> Janet
>>> I would of, but I had a bone in my leg at the time.
>> Hmmmmm.
>> Someone once gave me a very naff fridge magnet complete with picture of >> a cutesy poo Teddy Bear.
>> I'd throw it out because it's so ghastly but I can't bring myself to do >> it because it says: >> "Pardon me! You must of mistaken me for someone who gives a damn."
>> The appalling English is what makes me keep it.
> If you think American sounds funny, you should hear what Ozzies sound > like.
I didn't say that at all.
I don't think Americans 'sound' funny. Americans just have an accent different to mine. It is accent that relates to how people 'sound', not what they say or write.
I do think that some Americans write and say odd things that make no grammatical or linguistic sense but certainly may make cultural sense in the US but not elsewhere. "Would of" rather than "would have" may perhaps be one of those instances. I certainly hope not as it would be yet another example of dumbing down of a perfectly good language.
My least favourite Americanism that has no relationship with accent but is related to culture is: "I could care less". That could be grammatically and linguistically correct, however since nearly all Americans use it when they really mean "I could NOT care less", I think it's ridiculous.
Given how frequently I have seen it being used by American's, it seems to be culturally acceptable in the US (but not elsewhere).
One of the best examples of what I am fairly certain would be an Americanism is one I have also used in this post. Pithy, accurate and cuts to the chase (the latter being perhaps also of American origin given it also fits the criteria).
"Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7li726F3dr9kmU2@mid.individual.net... >> Phxbrd wrote: >>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>> news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: >>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>> together. >>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>> Janet >>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a >>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
>> Bobbie;-)
> I'm an Autumn.
In this ng, perhaps Winter would be closer to the mark.
> Given how frequently I have seen it being used by American's, it seems to be > culturally acceptable in the US (but not elsewhere).
> One of the best examples of what I am fairly certain would be an Americanism > is one I have also used in this post. Pithy, accurate and cuts to the chase > (the latter being perhaps also of American origin given it also fits the > criteria).
For me it is "Lucked out" I thought that meant they were unlucky, but No! it actually means to be lucky. No doubt our American friends must say the same about many of our antiquated sayings. Bobbie
> > On 2009-11-06 11:35:44 +0000, "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> said:
> >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:7li726F3dr9kmU2@mid.individual.net... > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: > >>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> > >>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
> >>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools > >>>>>>> together. > >>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
> >>>>>> Janet > >>>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a > >>>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
> >>>>> Bobbie;-)
> >>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
> >>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
> >>> Bobbie;-)
> >> I'm an Autumn.
> > LOL! Very good! > > -- > > Sacha
> It's true. I am. Betcha I'm the only man here to have been color draped.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Then puce and olive green should be your colors. (If you don't know what puce is, look it up. It's the color of the average white woman in winter.) Toci
> In message <7lifa6F3e4l0...@mid.individual.net>, Phxbrd > <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> writes
>>If you think American sounds funny, you should hear what Ozzies sound >>like. >>They speak neither American OR English. They seem to make good bartenders >>though. Americans go to the bars they work in just to hear them talk.
> So that's it! Nobody would go into a bar in America for the beer. > -- > Gordon H
While once true, that statement no longer applies. There are all kinds of beer now being brewed here. None of it is consumed at room temperature as it is in some countries I could mention.
> The message <7lifa6F3e4l0...@mid.individual.net> > from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message >> news:NLednX_L_443SG7XnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@westnet.com.au... >> > "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >> >>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >> >>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>> >>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >> >>>> together.
>> >>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>> >>> Janet
>> >> I would of, but I had a bone in my leg at the time.
>> > Hmmmmm.
>> > Someone once gave me a very naff fridge magnet complete with >> > picture of a >> > cutesy poo Teddy Bear.
>> > I'd throw it out because it's so ghastly but I can't bring myself to >> > do it >> > because it says: >> > "Pardon me! You must of mistaken me for someone who gives a damn."
>> > The appalling English is what makes me keep it.
>> If you think American sounds funny, you should hear what Ozzies sound >> like.
> " By George, he hasn't got it "
> Janet
A matter of can't see the trees for the forest innit. I'm sure that all around you sound completely normal.
> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message >>> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>> together.
>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>> Janet
>>>> I would of, but I had a bone in my leg at the time.
>>> Hmmmmm.
>>> Someone once gave me a very naff fridge magnet complete with picture of >>> a cutesy poo Teddy Bear.
>>> I'd throw it out because it's so ghastly but I can't bring myself to do >>> it because it says: >>> "Pardon me! You must of mistaken me for someone who gives a damn."
>>> The appalling English is what makes me keep it.
>> If you think American sounds funny, you should hear what Ozzies sound >> like.
> I didn't say that at all.
> I don't think Americans 'sound' funny. Americans just have an accent > different to mine. It is accent that relates to how people 'sound', not > what they say or write.
> I do think that some Americans write and say odd things that make no > grammatical or linguistic sense but certainly may make cultural sense in > the US but not elsewhere. "Would of" rather than "would have" may perhaps > be one of those instances. I certainly hope not as it would be yet > another example of dumbing down of a perfectly good language.
> My least favourite Americanism that has no relationship with accent but is > related to culture is: "I could care less". That could be grammatically > and linguistically correct, however since nearly all Americans use it > when they really mean "I could NOT care less", I think it's ridiculous.
I agree 100%. I've even had school teachers argue the point. Then we wonder why Johnny still can't read.
> Given how frequently I have seen it being used by American's, it seems to > be culturally acceptable in the US (but not elsewhere).
> One of the best examples of what I am fairly certain would be an > Americanism is one I have also used in this post. Pithy, accurate and > cuts to the chase (the latter being perhaps also of American origin given > it also fits the criteria).
I have no proof, but I suspect that the exchange of colloquialisms between our countries is a multi-directional street with traffic in all directions. I've even been known to frow anuvver shrimp on the barbie.
> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:7li726F3dr9kmU2@mid.individual.net... >>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>>> news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: >>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>> together. >>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>> Janet >>>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a >>>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
>>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
>>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
>>> Bobbie;-)
>> I'm an Autumn.
> In this ng, perhaps Winter would be closer to the mark.
> >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:7li726F3dr9kmU2@mid.individual.net... > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: > >>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> > >>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
> >>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools > >>>>>>> together. > >>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
> >>>>>> Janet > >>>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a > >>>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
> >>>>> Bobbie;-)
> >>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
> >>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
> >>> Bobbie;-)
> >> I'm an Autumn.
> > LOL! Very good! > > -- > > Sacha
> It's true. I am. Betcha I'm the only man here to have been color draped.- > Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Then puce and olive green should be your colors. (If you don't know what puce is, look it up. It's the color of the average white woman in winter.) Toci --------------
OK, you got me, at least on the puce, and no, I didn't know that color from a bale of hay. Howsumever, I doubt Bobbie had olive green as a wedding color. She was ex-navy, not army. More likely it was a light green, or Spring.
>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:7li726F3dr9kmU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: >>>>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>>>> Janet >>>>>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a >>>>>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
>>>>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>>>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
>>>>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
>>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>>> I'm an Autumn.
>>> LOL! Very good! >>> -- >>> Sacha
>> It's true. I am. Betcha I'm the only man here to have been color >> draped.
> That wouldn't surprise me at all. What's interesting is WHY? > -- > Sacha
It seemed like the thing to do at the time. I was in between marriages, and went to a Parents Without Partners house party. Who knew it was for wimmin only?
>>>> "Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>> news:7liat0F3e2t92U2@mid.individual.net... >>>>> On 2009-11-06 02:04:36 +0000, "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> >>>>> said:
>>>>>> "Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:7lh7t1F3e3iftU2@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> On 2009-11-05 22:24:10 +0000, "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:31303030393032394AF3251809@zetnet.co.uk... >>>>>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>>>>> Janet
>>>>>>>> I would of, but I had a bone in my leg at the time.
>>>>>>> Oh my goodness - my grandmother used to use that expression!
>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sacha
>>>>>> It must be a common affliction.
>>>>> Nothing common about my granny, thank you! >>>>> -- >>>>> Sacha
>>>> Why thank me if you took offense at my words??
>>> I didn't take offense, or even offence. >>> -- >>> Sacha
>> You foreigners sure do talk funny. Or should I say you foreigners do >> surely >> speak funnily? Sounds a bit stilted innit. See why we laugh at you?
> It's a good job we don't have Skype, you'd see most of us creased up > laughing... > -- > Sacha
"Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message >> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message >>>> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>> together.
>>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>> Janet
>>>>> I would of, but I had a bone in my leg at the time.
>>>> Hmmmmm.
>>>> Someone once gave me a very naff fridge magnet complete with picture >>>> of a cutesy poo Teddy Bear.
>>>> I'd throw it out because it's so ghastly but I can't bring myself to do >>>> it because it says: >>>> "Pardon me! You must of mistaken me for someone who gives a damn."
>>>> The appalling English is what makes me keep it.
>>> If you think American sounds funny, you should hear what Ozzies sound >>> like.
>> I didn't say that at all.
>> I don't think Americans 'sound' funny. Americans just have an accent >> different to mine. It is accent that relates to how people 'sound', not >> what they say or write.
>> I do think that some Americans write and say odd things that make no >> grammatical or linguistic sense but certainly may make cultural sense in >> the US but not elsewhere. "Would of" rather than "would have" may >> perhaps be one of those instances. I certainly hope not as it would be >> yet another example of dumbing down of a perfectly good language.
>> My least favourite Americanism that has no relationship with accent but >> is related to culture is: "I could care less". That could be >> grammatically and linguistically correct, however since nearly all >> Americans use it when they really mean "I could NOT care less", I think >> it's ridiculous.
> I agree 100%. I've even had school teachers argue the point. Then we > wonder why Johnny still can't read.
Thank god for that! Keep up the good fight. Johnny needs all the help he can get if modern books are any indication of what's happening to language.
>> Given how frequently I have seen it being used by American's, it seems to >> >> be culturally acceptable in the US (but not elsewhere).
>> One of the best examples of what I am fairly certain would be an >> Americanism is one I have also used in this post. Pithy, accurate and >> cuts to the chase (the latter being perhaps also of American origin given >> it also fits the criteria). > I have no proof, but I suspect that the exchange of colloquialisms between > our countries is a multi-directional street with traffic in all > directions. I've even been known to frow anuvver shrimp on the barbie.
LOL. You need to change the the throwing another PRAWN on the barbie though. The ad was tailored for an American audience so that Americans would understand what was being eaten. In Oz we don't eat shrimp as they are about the size of krill.
"Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message >> "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:7lgts8F3e0abeU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: >>>>>>> The message <7lgcijF3dl6h...@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>> from "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> contains these words:
>>>>>>>> The Bobster and I go way back. We went to different schools >>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>> I bet you were her bridesmaid and all.
>>>>>>> Janet >>>>>> I asked but he refused to wear the dress I chose, so I had to have a >>>>>> nephew as page boy, instead.
>>>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>>>> Can I help it if the color didn't flatter me?
>>>> So! What is the matter with puce and green, for goodness sake??
>>>> Bobbie;-)
>>> I'm an Autumn.
>> In this ng, perhaps Winter would be closer to the mark.
In message <7lj6neF3c69a...@mid.individual.net>, Phxbrd <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> writes
>"Gordon H" <Gordon_N...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote >> Nobody would go into a bar in America for the beer. >> Gordon H
>While once true, that statement no longer applies. There are all kinds of >beer now being brewed here.
I saw Boddingtons bitter and other British beers in the airport bar at Chicago, but I don't know where they were brewed.
> None of it is consumed at room temperature as >it is in some countries I could mention.
Yuk! I think I know the root of the problem. Beer only tastes like beer when it is served a few degrees below room temperature, which in our case is of course lower than the average US room.
Beer which is chilled down to refrigerator temperature no longer tastes like beer. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
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