Sacha wrote: > Hugh Laurie, Sonya Walger, Dominic West, Damian Lewis, Natasha McElhone > and until recently, Anna Friel. Also Joseph Fiennes and Jack Davenport > in FlashForward, Dominic Monaghan, Tim Roth, Michelle Ryan. Reasons > given are that British actors are happy to take TV roles, while US > actors are wanting film roles. British actors will work for less than > the £60,000 per episode that US actors demand but as it's said, they > wouldn't get the work unless they were good "and in many cases, British > actors are better than their transatlantic counterparts. One agent has > said 'American actors think about their face and their voice, but don't > use their bodies enough. The Brits are more rounded actors.' " Paul > Connolly writing in the weekend magazine of the Daily Mail, available > online but for a sub!
I generally think (and this may be dated, since I don't watch TV and almost never get to the movies) that actors from the UK are more natural, don't get so many procedures done to look a certain way, and are extremely good at their profession.
On Oct 31, 10:38 pm, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Hugh Laurie, Sonya Walger, Dominic West, Damian Lewis, Natasha McElhone > and until recently, Anna Friel. Also Joseph Fiennes and Jack Davenport > in FlashForward, Dominic Monaghan, Tim Roth, Michelle Ryan. Reasons > given are that British actors are happy to take TV roles, while US > actors are wanting film roles. British actors will work for less than > the £60,000 per episode that US actors demand but as it's said, they > wouldn't get the work unless they were good "and in many cases, British > actors are better than their transatlantic counterparts. One agent has > said 'American actors think about their face and their voice, but don't > use their bodies enough. The Brits are more rounded actors.' " Paul > Connolly writing in the weekend magazine of the Daily Mail, available > online but for a sub! > -- > Sacha
In general I do prefer the English actors, for the reasons given above. (still googling damn it!) jingles
>> Sacha wrote: >>> Hugh Laurie, Sonya Walger, Dominic West, Damian Lewis, Natasha >>> McElhone and until recently, Anna Friel. Also Joseph Fiennes and >>> Jack Davenport in FlashForward, Dominic Monaghan, Tim Roth, Michelle >>> Ryan. Reasons given are that British actors are happy to take TV >>> roles, while US actors are wanting film roles. British actors will >>> work for less than the £60,000 per episode that US actors demand but >>> as it's said, they wouldn't get the work unless they were good "and >>> in many cases, British actors are better than their transatlantic >>> counterparts. One agent has said 'American actors think about their >>> face and their voice, but don't use their bodies enough. The Brits >>> are more rounded actors.' " Paul Connolly writing in the weekend >>> magazine of the Daily Mail, available online but for a sub!
>> I generally think (and this may be dated, since I don't watch TV and >> almost never get to the movies) that actors from the UK are more >> natural, don't get so many procedures done to look a certain way, and >> are extremely good at their profession.
> Until recently, plastic surgery hasn't been so popular here but I think > we're catching up! I wonder if some of the 'natural' style of acting > has to do with the way actors train or whether it's because our > profession has been more theatre based in its origins, whereas film has > so quickly become your major industry. I know some of the earlier > British actors to hit Hollywood found it quite hard to 'tone it down' > for the cameras because they were used to making large gestures and very > deliberate moves for stage work.
Interesting! I only think your actors and actresses are superb. (Of course, there must be ones who are far less superb, but they don't make it over here. I should add that my knowledge of any such thing is very dated.)
Steven Spielberg called Pete Postlethwaite "the best actor in the world" after working with the actor on the The Lost World: Jurassic Park, of which Postlethwaite says: I'm sure what Spielberg actually said was, "The thing about Pete is that he thinks he's the best actor in the world."'
That sums up the skill and attitude of many British actors in a few words.
> Steven Spielberg called Pete Postlethwaite "the best actor in the > world" after working with the actor on the The Lost World: Jurassic > Park, of which Postlethwaite says: I'm sure what Spielberg actually > said was, "The thing about Pete is that he thinks he's the best actor > in the world."'
> That sums up the skill and attitude of many British actors in a few > words.
> Steve
I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, he becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
> On 2009-11-01 15:55:26 +0000, "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> said:
>> "Stephen Wolstenholme" <st...@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:9a8re51790j6oh6jtncbvlnjjgpkv3ug39@4ax.com... >>> Steven Spielberg called Pete Postlethwaite "the best actor in the >>> world" after working with the actor on the The Lost World: Jurassic >>> Park, of which Postlethwaite says: I'm sure what Spielberg actually >>> said was, "The thing about Pete is that he thinks he's the best actor >>> in the world."'
>>> That sums up the skill and attitude of many British actors in a few >>> words.
>>> Steve
>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the >> sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, he >> becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
>> Peaches
> He's wonderful and so is Jim Broadbent. Neither have the 'romantic lead' > type of face and both are brilliant actors.
> -- > Sacha
Yep, there's another one, Jim Broadbent..truly gifted...
Janet Baraclough wrote: > The message <hckb1j$5g...@news.eternal-september.org> > from "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> contains these words:
>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the sheer >> pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, he becomes >> the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
> Me too, and yes he is.
> Janet
Often mistaken for Pete P is Alun Armstrong, he of New Tricks. I saw him when he played Thenardier in the original cast of Les Miserable in 1985. Another amazingly versatile actor with the RSC and The National Theatre. Both actors who have received countless accolades for their work.
> Janet Baraclough wrote: >> The message <hckb1j$5g...@news.eternal-september.org> >> from "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> contains these words:
>>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the >>> sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, he >>> becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
>> Me too, and yes he is.
>> Janet
> Often mistaken for Pete P is Alun Armstrong, he of New Tricks. I saw him > when he played Thenardier in the original cast of Les Miserable in 1985. > Another amazingly versatile actor with the RSC and The National Theatre. > Both actors who have received countless accolades for their work.
In message <9a8re51790j6oh6jtncbvlnjjgpkv3u...@4ax.com>, Stephen Wolstenholme <st...@tropheus.demon.co.uk> writes
>Steven Spielberg called Pete Postlethwaite "the best actor in the >world" after working with the actor on the The Lost World: Jurassic >Park, of which Postlethwaite says: I'm sure what Spielberg actually >said was, "The thing about Pete is that he thinks he's the best actor >in the world."'
>That sums up the skill and attitude of many British actors in a few >words.
>Steve
I first noticed him in Brassed Off, a comedy about a brass band, but there was pathos as well as humour in his role... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
>Janet Baraclough wrote: >> The message <hckb1j$5g...@news.eternal-september.org> >> from "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> contains these words:
>>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for >>>the sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer >>>Pete, he becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he? >> Me too, and yes he is. >> Janet
>Often mistaken for Pete P is Alun Armstrong, he of New Tricks. I saw >him when he played Thenardier in the original cast of Les Miserable in >1985. Another amazingly versatile actor with the RSC and The National >Theatre. Both actors who have received countless accolades for their work.
>Bobbie
Zing! Yes, he is very similar, easy to confuse them. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
> On 2009-10-31 13:20:52 +0000, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> said:
> > Sacha wrote: > >> Hugh Laurie, Sonya Walger, Dominic West, Damian Lewis, Natasha McElhone > >> and until recently, Anna Friel. Also Joseph Fiennes and Jack Davenport > >> in FlashForward, Dominic Monaghan, Tim Roth, Michelle Ryan. Reasons > >> given are that British actors are happy to take TV roles, while US > >> actors are wanting film roles. British actors will work for less than > >> the £60,000 per episode that US actors demand but as it's said, they > >> wouldn't get the work unless they were good "and in many cases, British > >> actors are better than their transatlantic counterparts. One agent has > >> said 'American actors think about their face and their voice, but don't > >> use their bodies enough. The Brits are more rounded actors.' " Paul > >> Connolly writing in the weekend magazine of the Daily Mail, available > >> online but for a sub!
> > I generally think (and this may be dated, since I don't watch TV and > > almost never get to the movies) that actors from the UK are more > > natural, don't get so many procedures done to look a certain way, and > > are extremely good at their profession.
> Until recently, plastic surgery hasn't been so popular here but I think > we're catching up! I wonder if some of the 'natural' style of acting > has to do with the way actors train or whether it's because our > profession has been more theatre based in its origins, whereas film has > so quickly become your major industry. I know some of the earlier > British actors to hit Hollywood found it quite hard to 'tone it down' > for the cameras because they were used to making large gestures and > very deliberate moves for stage work.
> -- > Sacha
When the film industry in the UK began to blossom, it was necessary to pull stage performers into this new arena. Many of the early films show large gestures reminiscent of silent movies. I believe that many English actors still spread their time between film and stage. Yesterday I watched some of 'Australia' for the first time. Kidman is so tightly stretched that she looks like a plastic doll.....I turned it off part way through by the way. jingles
On Nov 2, 2:01 am, Stephen Wolstenholme <st...@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Steven Spielberg called Pete Postlethwaite "the best actor in the > world" after working with the actor on the The Lost World: Jurassic > Park, of which Postlethwaite says: I'm sure what Spielberg actually > said was, "The thing about Pete is that he thinks he's the best actor > in the world."'
> That sums up the skill and attitude of many British actors in a few > words.
> Steve
If you don't blow your own trumpet...ain't nobody going to blow it for you...... jingles
> > Janet Baraclough wrote: > >> The message <hckb1j$5g...@news.eternal-september.org> > >> from "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> contains these words:
> >>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the > >>> sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, he > >>> becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
> >> Me too, and yes he is.
> >> Janet
> > Often mistaken for Pete P is Alun Armstrong, he of New Tricks. I saw him > > when he played Thenardier in the original cast of Les Miserable in 1985. > > Another amazingly versatile actor with the RSC and The National Theatre. > > Both actors who have received countless accolades for their work.
> > Bobbie
> I watch 'New Tricks' also...great show IMNSHO
> Peaches
Waiting for a new series to hit Australia..... Good to see 'real' actors performing..... jingles
> Steven Spielberg called Pete Postlethwaite "the best actor in the > world" after working with the actor on the The Lost World: Jurassic > Park, of which Postlethwaite says: I'm sure what Spielberg actually > said was, "The thing about Pete is that he thinks he's the best actor > in the world."'
> That sums up the skill and attitude of many British actors in a few > words.
> Steve
If that is an accurate quote, I think it's great! I think self-deprecating humor is the best kind. It also shows that he isn't really that conceited. If he were, he wouldn't have said that.
Sacha wrote: Albert > Finney is a truly outstanding actor we don't see enough of, IMO. You > can watch him like a hawk to figure out what he was doing and the answer > alays seemed to me 'not much' but he could convey a character in a way > that was sublime. I don't know if it was ever put out on DVD but if you > can get hold of The Dresser starring him and Tom Courtenay, it's a 'do > not miss', IMO.
Albert Finney has rarely been away from regular film goers screens.
Albert Finney turned down the offer of a CBE in 1980 and a knighthood in 2000.[3]
He has been nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actor four times, for Tom Jones (1963), Murder on the Orient Express (1974), The Dresser (1983), and Under the Volcano (1984). He was nominated for Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in Erin Brockovich (2000).
Finney received a BAFTA award for Most Promising Newcomer to Leading Film Roles in 1961 for Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960). He was also nominated for Best British Actor for the same film. Despite being nominated 15 more times, he finally won for The Gathering Storm. He was nominated for an Emmy Award for his performance in the HBO telefilm The Image (1990), and won an Emmy, for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Mini-Series or TV Film, for his performance as Winston Churchill in HBO's The Gathering Storm in 2002.
He was amazing in all of his films but recently gave great performances in both Erin Brockovich and The Bourne Ultimatum As a regular film goer, I wouldn't miss one of his films. Check Wiki there is a really good account of his work. I agree The Dresser is an outstanding film but he has done equally good work since then.
>>>> Sacha wrote: >>>>> Hugh Laurie, Sonya Walger, Dominic West, Damian Lewis, Natasha >>>>> McElhone and until recently, Anna Friel. Also Joseph Fiennes and >>>>> Jack Davenport in FlashForward, Dominic Monaghan, Tim Roth, >>>>> Michelle Ryan. Reasons given are that British actors are happy to >>>>> take TV roles, while US actors are wanting film roles. British >>>>> actors will work for less than the £60,000 per episode that US >>>>> actors demand but as it's said, they wouldn't get the work unless >>>>> they were good "and in many cases, British actors are better than >>>>> their transatlantic counterparts. One agent has said 'American >>>>> actors think about their face and their voice, but don't use their >>>>> bodies enough. The Brits are more rounded actors.' " Paul Connolly >>>>> writing in the weekend magazine of the Daily Mail, available online >>>>> but for a sub!
>>>> I generally think (and this may be dated, since I don't watch TV and >>>> almost never get to the movies) that actors from the UK are more >>>> natural, don't get so many procedures done to look a certain way, >>>> and are extremely good at their profession.
>>> Until recently, plastic surgery hasn't been so popular here but I >>> think we're catching up! I wonder if some of the 'natural' style of >>> acting has to do with the way actors train or whether it's because >>> our profession has been more theatre based in its origins, whereas >>> film has so quickly become your major industry. I know some of the >>> earlier British actors to hit Hollywood found it quite hard to 'tone >>> it down' for the cameras because they were used to making large >>> gestures and very deliberate moves for stage work.
>> Interesting! I only think your actors and actresses are superb. (Of >> course, there must be ones who are far less superb, but they don't >> make it over here. I should add that my knowledge of any such thing >> is very dated.)
> It doesn't change much, though. The trouble is that it's a really cruel > profession, involving a lot of personal criticism and knockbacks. Some > really good people just never get the break, while others get noticed in > one part and never seem to stop working after that. I think in 'the old > days' a lot could get by on looks alone - even Roger Moore (The Saint, > James Bond) said he had two expressions, eyebrow up and eyebrow down! > But things changed when more gritty drama became fashionable and > realistic acting (there's a contradiction!) was in demand. Albert > Finney is a truly outstanding actor we don't see enough of, IMO. You > can watch him like a hawk to figure out what he was doing and the answer > alays seemed to me 'not much' but he could convey a character in a way > that was sublime. I don't know if it was ever put out on DVD but if you > can get hold of The Dresser starring him and Tom Courtenay, it's a 'do > not miss', IMO.
I need to start an "eventually I will see" list of movies and TV programs!
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:18:05 -0500, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote: >I need to start an "eventually I will see" list of movies and TV >programs!
There isn't enough time. Since cheap DVR's arrived I record everything I am likely to watch but I find that it's impossible to catch up. With DVR even commercial channels are just about tolerable as I can skip over the adverts.
>>>>>> Sacha wrote: >>>>>>> Hugh Laurie, Sonya Walger, Dominic West, Damian Lewis, Natasha >>>>>>> McElhone and until recently, Anna Friel. Also Joseph Fiennes and >>>>>>> Jack Davenport in FlashForward, Dominic Monaghan, Tim Roth, Michelle >>>>>>> Ryan. Reasons given are that British actors are happy to take TV >>>>>>> roles, while US actors are wanting film roles. British actors will >>>>>>> work for less than the £60,000 per episode that US actors demand but >>>>>>> as it's said, they wouldn't get the work unless they were good "and >>>>>>> in many cases, British actors are better than their transatlantic >>>>>>> counterparts. One agent has said 'American actors think about their >>>>>>> face and their voice, but don't use their bodies enough. The Brits >>>>>>> are more rounded actors.' " Paul Connolly writing in the weekend >>>>>>> magazine of the Daily Mail, available online but for a sub!
>>>>>> I generally think (and this may be dated, since I don't watch TV and >>>>>> almost never get to the movies) that actors from the UK are more >>>>>> natural, don't get so many procedures done to look a certain way, and >>>>>> are extremely good at their profession.
>>>>> Until recently, plastic surgery hasn't been so popular here but I >>>>> think we're catching up! I wonder if some of the 'natural' style of >>>>> acting has to do with the way actors train or whether it's because our >>>>> profession has been more theatre based in its origins, whereas film >>>>> has so quickly become your major industry. I know some of the >>>>> earlier British actors to hit Hollywood found it quite hard to 'tone >>>>> it down' for the cameras because they were used to making large >>>>> gestures and very deliberate moves for stage work.
>>>> Interesting! I only think your actors and actresses are superb. (Of >>>> course, there must be ones who are far less superb, but they don't make >>>> it over here. I should add that my knowledge of any such thing is very >>>> dated.)
>>> It doesn't change much, though. The trouble is that it's a really cruel >>> profession, involving a lot of personal criticism and knockbacks. Some >>> really good people just never get the break, while others get noticed in >>> one part and never seem to stop working after that. I think in 'the old >>> days' a lot could get by on looks alone - even Roger Moore (The Saint, >>> James Bond) said he had two expressions, eyebrow up and eyebrow down! >>> But things changed when more gritty drama became fashionable and >>> realistic acting (there's a contradiction!) was in demand. Albert >>> Finney is a truly outstanding actor we don't see enough of, IMO. You >>> can watch him like a hawk to figure out what he was doing and the answer >>> alays seemed to me 'not much' but he could convey a character in a way >>> that was sublime. I don't know if it was ever put out on DVD but if you >>> can get hold of The Dresser starring him and Tom Courtenay, it's a 'do >>> not miss', IMO.
>> I need to start an "eventually I will see" list of movies and TV >> programs!
> So do I. Neither of us much likes going to the cinema and being > surrounded by lots of other people sneezing and coughing and fidgeting > about! > -- > Sacha
The internet service is perfect for us, as Jerry will hardly go the the theater for a movie. I do want to see, "Where the Wild Things Are" on the big screen. I used to read that book to my children, but the movie is supposedly for adults like me. It was an excellent children's book, and I even liked the accompanying toys. There are some movies that need a big screen to be seen fully and to get all the things going on.
"The Dresser" was an excellent film. Actually I should order it from Netflix, to watch it again.
"Australia" was built up in the minds here, but I really didn't like the film. We are now into series from BBc along with movies. The latest series, ("Five Days") is based in Australia, but a fine mystery and could be placed anywhere. The accents make it better though, and we still have another DVD to go.
About 2 yers ago, someone on afpf posted a list of movies, and others added to it. I am still working on it, but have no idea what the name of the thread was.
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:18:05 -0500, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>>I need to start an "eventually I will see" list of movies and TV >>programs!
> There isn't enough time. Since cheap DVR's arrived I record everything > I am likely to watch but I find that it's impossible to catch up. With > DVR even commercial channels are just about tolerable as I can skip > over the adverts.
> Steve
I like them too, but we recently changes to Dish and I haven't figured out how to use it effectively.
>> I need to start an "eventually I will see" list of movies and TV >> programs!
> So do I. Neither of us much likes going to the cinema and being > surrounded by lots of other people sneezing and coughing and fidgeting > about!
That is such a shame because you miss so much when you don't see some of the current classics on the big screen. I haven't found them to be particularly full of people sneezing and coughing in fact I go regularly as you know with my friends and I have never seen it the way you describe. If you go to a children's matinee, then it might be different, but pick the right time to view and the audience is as keen to see and hear the film and don't tend to spoil it for others. If I was to avoid all contact with people who sneeze and cough, I would have to confine myself to the house for all time. Not something I care to contemplate, as it is I can't remember the last time I caught a cold and I go to the cinema and the theatre regularly. Perhaps the reason why so many so called film stars fail is because people don't go to see their films. If you ever get the chance do go and see "UP" it is a delightful film, full of both humour and pathos and is such a lovely film, but do see it at a cinema, even the biggest home screen couldn't do it justice.
>>I need to start an "eventually I will see" list of movies and TV >>programs!
>There isn't enough time. Since cheap DVR's arrived I record everything >I am likely to watch but I find that it's impossible to catch up. With >DVR even commercial channels are just about tolerable as I can skip >over the adverts.
>Steve
I watch many programmes by recording them first and skipping through all the waffle and time wasting. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
>>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: >>>>> The message <hckb1j$5g...@news.eternal-september.org> >>>>> from "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> contains these words:
>>>>>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the >>>>>> sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, >> he >>>>>> becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
>>>>> Me too, and yes he is.
>>>>> Janet
>>>> Often mistaken for Pete P is Alun Armstrong, he of New Tricks. I saw hi >> m >>>> when he played Thenardier in the original cast of Les Miserable in 1985 >> . >>>> Another amazingly versatile actor with the RSC and The National Theatre >> . >>>> Both actors who have received countless accolades for their work.
>>>> Bobbie
>>> I watch 'New Tricks' also...great show IMNSHO
>>> Peaches
>> Waiting for a new series to hit Australia..... >> Good to see 'real' actors performing..... >> jingles
> Watched Doc Martin last night, Jingles. Tra la lalala...... ;-))
Love Doc Martin too....another series we are waiting for here in Oz jingles
Sacha wrote: > On 2009-11-02 11:13:11 +0000, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> said:
>> Sacha wrote: Albert >>> Finney is a truly outstanding actor we don't see enough of, IMO. You >>> can watch him like a hawk to figure out what he was doing and the >>> answer alays seemed to me 'not much' but he could convey a character >>> in a way that was sublime. I don't know if it was ever put out on >>> DVD but if you can get hold of The Dresser starring him and Tom >>> Courtenay, it's a 'do not miss', IMO.
>> Albert Finney has rarely been away from regular film goers screens.
>> Albert Finney turned down the offer of a CBE in 1980 and a knighthood >> in 2000.[3]
>> He has been nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actor four times, >> for Tom Jones (1963), Murder on the Orient Express (1974), The Dresser >> (1983), and Under the Volcano (1984). He was nominated for Academy >> Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in Erin Brockovich >> (2000).
>> Finney received a BAFTA award for Most Promising Newcomer to Leading >> Film Roles in 1961 for Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960). He >> was also nominated for Best British Actor for the same film. Despite >> being nominated 15 more times, he finally won for The Gathering Storm. >> He was nominated for an Emmy Award for his performance in the HBO >> telefilm The Image (1990), and won an Emmy, for Outstanding Lead Actor >> in a Mini-Series or TV Film, for his performance as Winston Churchill >> in HBO's The Gathering Storm in 2002.
>> He was amazing in all of his films but recently gave great >> performances in both Erin Brockovich and The Bourne Ultimatum >> As a regular film goer, I wouldn't miss one of his films. >> Check Wiki there is a really good account of his work. >> I agree The Dresser is an outstanding film but he has done equally >> good work since then.
>> Bobbie
> I didn't say he had not done good work since The Dresser. I've seen him > in all the parts you mention, other than Under the Volcano, so I'm well > aware of his work but what I said was I don't think we see enough of > it/him. I would think he's very choosy now about the roles he takes on. > I'm just a little surprised you don't mention The Rather English > Marriage. He, Tom Courtenay and Joanna Lumley, together with Ursula > Howells, were a study in the art of perfect, understated acting by > those at the top of their craft. I'm sorry you missed seeing that. It > was a perfect example of the English gift for tragi-comedy that leaves > people deep in thought. Even Finney's perfectly ghastly would-be gent's > cravat spoke volumes in a non-speaking part! Perhaps that one's not on > 'Wiki'?
Actually Sacha I don't think I mentioned half his films, but a quick look at IMBd will tell you most of what you want to know about any film star failed or otherwise. Albert Finney is surely one of the all time greats in my estimation. In fact I *did* see the film you mention and it has been screened a couple of times that I know of on TV. It was the type of film that the Brits do best but I wonder if it would have gone down so well in America. They don't warm to the kind of character that Finney was playing in that film. An Upper class twit with little to endear him. It was indeed, a super film and the acting was excellent. Worth another look to be sure.
> >>> Sacha wrote: Albert > >>>> Finney is a truly outstanding actor we don't see enough of, IMO. You > >>>> can watch him like a hawk to figure out what he was doing and the > >>>> answer alays seemed to me 'not much' but he could convey a character in > >>>> a way that was sublime. I don't know if it was ever put out on DVD but > >>>> if you can get hold of The Dresser starring him and Tom Courtenay, it's > >>>> a 'do not miss', IMO.
> >>> Albert Finney has rarely been away from regular film goers screens.
> >>> Albert Finney turned down the offer of a CBE in 1980 and a knighthood > >>> in 2000.[3]
> >>> He has been nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actor four times, > >>> for Tom Jones (1963), Murder on the Orient Express (1974), The Dresser > >>> (1983), and Under the Volcano (1984). He was nominated for Academy > >>> Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in Erin Brockovich > >>> (2000).
> >>> Finney received a BAFTA award for Most Promising Newcomer to Leading > >>> Film Roles in 1961 for Saturday Night and Sunday Morning (1960). He was > >>> also nominated for Best British Actor for the same film. Despite being > >>> nominated 15 more times, he finally won for The Gathering Storm. He was > >>> nominated for an Emmy Award for his performance in the HBO telefilm The > >>> Image (1990), and won an Emmy, for Outstanding Lead Actor in a > >>> Mini-Series or TV Film, for his performance as Winston Churchill in > >>> HBO's The Gathering Storm in 2002.
> >>> He was amazing in all of his films but recently gave great performances > >>> in both Erin Brockovich and The Bourne Ultimatum > >>> As a regular film goer, I wouldn't miss one of his films. > >>> Check Wiki there is a really good account of his work. > >>> I agree The Dresser is an outstanding film but he has done equally good > >>> work since then.
> >>> Bobbie
> >> I didn't say he had not done good work since The Dresser. I've seen > >> him in all the parts you mention, other than Under the Volcano, so I'm > >> well aware of his work but what I said was I don't think we see enough > >> of it/him. I would think he's very choosy now about the roles he takes > >> on. > >> I'm just a little surprised you don't mention The Rather English > >> Marriage. He, Tom Courtenay and Joanna Lumley, together with Ursula > >> Howells, were a study in the art of perfect, understated acting by > >> those at the top of their craft. I'm sorry you missed seeing that. It > >> was a perfect example of the English gift for tragi-comedy that leaves > >> people deep in thought. Even Finney's perfectly ghastly would-be > >> gent's cravat spoke volumes in a non-speaking part! Perhaps that one's > >> not on 'Wiki'?
> > Actually Sacha I don't think I mentioned half his films, but a quick > > look at IMBd will tell you most of what you want to know about any film > > star failed or otherwise. Albert Finney is surely one of the all time > > greats in my estimation. In fact I *did* see the film you mention and > > it has been screened a couple of times that I know of on TV. It was the > > type of film that the Brits do best but I wonder if it would have gone > > down so well in America. They don't warm to the kind of character that > > Finney was playing in that film. An Upper class twit with little to > > endear him. It was indeed, a super film and the acting was excellent. > > Worth another look to be sure.
> > Bobbie
> After The Full Monty was successful in America, I think it's hard to > say what would or wouldn't play well there. Four Weddings had an upper > class theme in the background and was very popular. Actually, I don't > recall that Finney character as being genuinely upper class, so much as > a wannabe, which was made him impossible to like, even if pitying his > view of himself as 'a gent' - the cravat was a giveaway, though the > nuances might not be all that perceptible. It was a bit of a Separate > Tables character, in a way. > -- > Sacha
I appreciated his work and I think you are spot on with the description of the "wannabe who wanted to be something he never was and, of course, never could be". There are a lot of people in life like that, I have come across a couple and found them to be sad people who would never be content with their lot but I am getting away from the subject. I saw Albery Finney at the Theatre Royal many, many years ago, I don't recall the production, I wonder if Googling will bring it up for me?
> >>>> Janet Baraclough wrote: > >>>>> The message <hckb1j$5g...@news.eternal-september.org> > >>>>> from "Peaches" <peaches75...@tx.rr.com> contains these words:
> >>>>>> I will watch anything that has Pete Postlethwaite in it, just for the > >>>>>> sheer pleasure of watching a master craftsman. He is no longer Pete, > >> he > >>>>>> becomes the character. Marvelous, isn't he?
> >>>>> Me too, and yes he is.
> >>>>> Janet
> >>>> Often mistaken for Pete P is Alun Armstrong, he of New Tricks. I saw hi > >> m > >>>> when he played Thenardier in the original cast of Les Miserable in 1985 > >> . > >>>> Another amazingly versatile actor with the RSC and The National Theatre > >> . > >>>> Both actors who have received countless accolades for their work.
> >>>> Bobbie
> >>> I watch 'New Tricks' also...great show IMNSHO
> >>> Peaches
> >> Waiting for a new series to hit Australia..... > >> Good to see 'real' actors performing..... > >> jingles
> > Watched Doc Martin last night, Jingles. Tra la lalala...... ;-))
> Love Doc Martin too....another series we are waiting for here in Oz > jingles
Me too Jingles, I adore Martin Clunes, he reminds me of someone I know!
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