<coledenk...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Nov 15, 2:55 pm, Steve from Colorado <gass...@hushmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 15, 12:44 pm, " johnny@." <joh...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> > 1:40 PM 11/15/2009
>> > The U.S. Census Bureau reported that the minority population reached an >> > estimated 104.6 million -- or 34 percent of the nation's total >> > population -- on July 1, 2008, compared to 31 percent when the Census >> > was taken in 2000. Nearly one in six residents, or 46.9 million people, >> > are Hispanic, the agency reported.
>> > Even more telling for the future: 44 percent of children younger than 18 >> > and 47 percent of children younger than the age of five are now from >> > minority families.
>> > The quickly expanding Latino population is having a healthy impact on >> > the economy, according to Ken Gronbach, author of "The Age Curve: How to >> > Profit from the Growing Demographic Trend."
>> How pathetic. One look at Mexico, Guatamala, El Salvador and Cuba and >> you get a snapshot of what the much hyped latino population has to >> offer. These kinds of projections are reminiscent of the death of >> coral reefs due to global warming or the progress of lung cancer in an >> otherwise healthy patient. One has to wonder if the French had such >> giddy projections of the arrival of African slaves in their Caribean >> islands in the 1500s prior to the slave revolts.- Hide quoted text -
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>Only the sleaze of the business "community" supports the flooding of >America >with third-world immigrants. Financial success would come from >reducing population >and increasing our exports. Removal of 20 million illegals would >trigger an economic >boom beyond anything yet seen. Just think of the social stabililty >benefits.
American icon, the National Chamber of Commerce, is working to block implemenation of federal program called "E-Verify" a system that would require an employer to screen existing employees and applicants via matching name/social security number.
The Chamber is #1 pimping for business sleazebags.
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:01:27 -0800 (PST), climber
> <coledenk...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Nov 15, 2:55 pm, Steve from Colorado <gass...@hushmail.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 15, 12:44 pm, " johnny@." <joh...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> > 1:40 PM 11/15/2009
> >> > The U.S. Census Bureau reported that the minority population reached an > >> > estimated 104.6 million -- or 34 percent of the nation's total > >> > population -- on July 1, 2008, compared to 31 percent when the Census > >> > was taken in 2000. Nearly one in six residents, or 46.9 million people, > >> > are Hispanic, the agency reported.
> >> > Even more telling for the future: 44 percent of children younger than 18 > >> > and 47 percent of children younger than the age of five are now from > >> > minority families.
> >> > The quickly expanding Latino population is having a healthy impact on > >> > the economy, according to Ken Gronbach, author of "The Age Curve: How to > >> > Profit from the Growing Demographic Trend."
> >> How pathetic. One look at Mexico, Guatamala, El Salvador and Cuba and > >> you get a snapshot of what the much hyped latino population has to > >> offer. These kinds of projections are reminiscent of the death of > >> coral reefs due to global warming or the progress of lung cancer in an > >> otherwise healthy patient. One has to wonder if the French had such > >> giddy projections of the arrival of African slaves in their Caribean > >> islands in the 1500s prior to the slave revolts.- Hide quoted text -
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> >Only the sleaze of the business "community" supports the flooding of > >America > >with third-world immigrants. Financial success would come from > >reducing population > >and increasing our exports. Removal of 20 million illegals would > >trigger an economic > >boom beyond anything yet seen. Just think of the social stabililty > >benefits.
> American icon, the National Chamber of Commerce, is working > to block implemenation of federal program called "E-Verify" a > system that would require an employer to screen existing > employees and applicants via matching name/social security > number.
> The Chamber is #1 pimping for business sleazebags.
E-Verify is crap, and only verifies that the name the employee is using matches the SSN he is using. Instead of making up a random SSN, he is slightly inconvenienced by having to steal a real identity.
I know some undocumented Mexicans, and from what I heard their trick is to borrow the identity of a legal friend or relative, and have five or more work under that identity. The IRS doesn't care, since they pay taxes on each job, but you can be sure that the government will suddenly discover the fraud when the owner of the identity retires and tries to collect Social Security benefits based on those extra jobs.
Dänk 1010011010 wrote: > I know some undocumented Mexicans, and from what I heard their trick > is to borrow the identity of a legal friend or relative, and have five > or more work under that identity. The IRS doesn't care, since they > pay taxes on each job, but you can be sure that the government will > suddenly discover the fraud when the owner of the identity retires and > tries to collect Social Security benefits based on those extra jobs.
The young people I know dont ever expect to collect SS.
If the population cannot be stabilized in a rational fashion, then we'll do it the old fashioned with with anarchy, barbarism, and famine. Keep on breeding the misfit until the whole safety net collapses and only the most fit and adaptable survive.
in Collapse, by Diamond, twards the end of the book, he outlines the traits of surviving communities. These points come to mind. 1- a homogeneous population will pull together in crisis seeking mutual solutions. The diverse populations will have demagogues arise who will scapegoat minorities rather than find solutions.
2- Survival favors lower populations with higher per capita local resources that will nevertheless need to be well managed. Misogynistic cultures tend also to have too many chiefs and not enuf Indians with the alpha males in constant power struggles for dominance. Egalitarian tribes with women who have birth control forgo immediate conception so that the women can have the time to better organize the resource base.
3- Areas that have lotsa small farms rather than aristocracy with landed estates respond more quickly to the needs of the local population. The latter spends too much on trying to protect concentrated wealth. Serfs and slaves dont have any investment to protect and quickly turn to looting the perceived rich. The result is anarchy. But yeoman farmers self organize for mutual benefit quickly, and their sons have always provided the most effective soldiers.
Half the Green Berets grew up on family farms. This is but 1% of the total US population providing 50% of the nation's most competent troops. OTOH: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090605123237.htm shows us why minority communities have streetgangs. Which are not so well organized and suffer from chronic violent power struggles.
If this is to be avoided, then the liberal case workers would do well to ramp up production of daughters with their own caring liberal instincts to do the case management required to keep a lid on it.
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