On Nov 4, 4:20 pm, Lonestar <o...@delindio.net> wrote:
> Phxbrd wrote: > > It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > > circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have their > > own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health decline for the > > last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not accustomed to his > > wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's for sure. He doesn't > > speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to see me. He listened > > intently when I spoke with other family members. I know he wished he could > > set me straight on a number of issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We > > both knew our good byes were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> My thoughts are with you and the families. > Robert
And mine too Seth. I have a huge lump in my throat reading this as I can empathise. November is a sad month for me, my sister died in that month at the age of 60 and I too was the kid sister. When I last saw her, I, too, knew that I wouldn't be seeing her again. My heart goes out to you and for the emptiness you are feeling.
> > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > > >>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> > >>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > > >>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> > >>>>>>> Bobbie > > >>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > > >>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them ha > > > ve > > >>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > > >>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only on > > > es > > >>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down > > > , > > >>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he > > > was > > >>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other fami > > > ly > > >>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > > >>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good > > > byes > > >>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> > >>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > > >>>>>> pas > > > t. > > >>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > > >>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > > >>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > > >>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> > >>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us > > >>>>>> cremate > > > d > > >>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > > >>>>>> Flagstaf > > > f. > > >>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to > > > be > > >>>>>> planted in New Mexico.
> > >>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be > > >>>>> the > > >>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact > > >>>>> tha > > > t > > >>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > > >>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > > >>>>> s > > > ad > > >>>>> for you, and for all the family. > > >>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > > >>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a > > >>>>> more > > >>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> > >>>>> Thank you for sharing. > > >>>>> Hugs. > > >>>>> Bobbie
> > >>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary > > >>>> compared > > > to > > >>>> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > >>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > > >>> spa > > > ce > > >>> if everyone chose a green burial.
> > >> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. > > > When > > >> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > > >> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > > >> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction > > >> takes > > >> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monument > > > s are > > >> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> > >> I certainly think that the
> > >>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > >>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made > > >>> my > > >>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > > to > > >>> that. > > >>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > > to > > >>> Jazz players. > > >>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, > > >>> bu > > > t > > >>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > >>> Bobbie
> > > A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > > > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > > > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > > > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > > Judith
> > When their father died young and suddenly, my children became a little > > interested in how the process of death would affect me. I had a > > carpenter working in the house one day who was stilled by one of the > > children casually asking me, in his hearing, what I'd want to be > > buried in. This was only a few weeks after the death of their father > > and it was very much in their minds, of course. I said I couldn't care > > less as long as nobody argued about it - red tights, purple dress, > > jeans, no wishes at all. The carpenter had - until then - no idea > > what had happened and he was terribly shocked to hear this apparently > > random question, so I had to enlighten him later. Then I was asked for > > a few other details that I think they've now forgotten. So some time > > ago I wrote it down and sent it to them all, including the music etc. > > I think they thought it a bit macabre at the time but I explained that > > the idea was to save them stress and trouble. I said that if they want > > to mark my grave I would prefer a lump of un-dressed stone with > > whatever seems appropriate carved on it. I absolutely do not want some > > marble angel or florid headstone. Something lichen grows on > > comfortably will do me very well.
> > -- > > Sacha
> My children also know my wishes which are very simple, I am to be > dressed in a long cotton nightdress, natural fibres only, put me in a > cardboard box with a lid, just like a shoe box. I want rock and roll > music at the funeral service, also Freddie Mercurey singing Bohemian > Raphsody. I don't want a Requiem Mass. My final wish is that my ashes > are scattered to the 4 winds. I want them to make a party of the > day, after all I have lived a very full life and all good things have > to end. I firmly believe that I live on in the heart and memories of > my children and those who loved me.
> Judith
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> Customs are so affected by laws here. If we weren't cremated, the state > requires a coffin placed into a vacuum sealed vault, to avoid nitrogen in > the soil. It really takes a lot away from personal wishes. So we chose > cremation as an alternative to that.
> NormaK
Goodness Norma we don't have that here, most people in the local small burial ground are in tombs above ground. I went to a funeral for a neighbour and we all filed past the open tomb. One could see all the earlier occupants' coffins, so many different styles going back up to 200 years ago. My neighbour's son died when he was 6, I could see his tiny coffin next to where her coffin was placed, she was well into her mid to late 90's.
> >>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message > >>>news:7lbdjkF3c5t8tU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge. > >>>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful. > >>>>>>>> Bobbie > >>>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have > >>>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones > >>>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, > >>>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was > >>>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family > >>>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes > >>>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then. > >>>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > >>>>>>> past. > >>>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway. > >>>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated > >>>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > >>>>>>> Flagstaff. > >>>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be > >>>>>>> planted in New Mexico. > >>>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the > >>>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that > >>>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > >>>>>> sad > >>>>>> for you, and for all the family. > >>>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > >>>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though > >>>>>> Thank you for sharing. > >>>>>> Hugs. > >>>>>> Bobbie > >>>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared > >>>>> to > >>>>> the even more simple and natural green burial: > >>>>>http://www.greenburials.org/index.htm > >>>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > >>>> space > >>>> if everyone chose a green burial. > >>> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When > >>> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > >>> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > >>> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes > >>> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments > >>> are > >>> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore. > >>> I certainly think that the > >>>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > >>>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > >>>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > >>>> to > >>>> that. > >>>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > >>>> to > >>>> Jazz players. > >>>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but > >>>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills. > >>>> Bobbie > >> A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > >> burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > >> about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > >> bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> >> Judith > >> ----------------------
> >> I like that. More people have been buried that way than any other. It's > >> too bad it's gone out of style.
> > It seems to be coming back Seth, Colney Wood at Norwich is a > > relatively new thing. I walked through it about 2 years ago, not long > > after it opened and it was a lovely place to be, meandering through > > the wooded paths, turning a corner and seeing a name written on a > > small boulder, turning another corner and seeing a tiny wooden cross, > > simple, with just the person's name. The place was teeming in > > bluebells. The paths meandered up to a small mount and someone had > > bought it, that someone was still living but had chosen their final > > resting place, I can't describe the beauty of the place, everything > > there has to be a natural burial, no headstones, no flower vases, just > > nature.
> > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > > >>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> > >>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > > >>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> > >>>>>>> Bobbie > > >>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > > >>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them ha > > > ve > > >>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > > >>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only on > > > es > > >>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down > > > , > > >>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he > > > was > > >>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other fami > > > ly > > >>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > > >>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good > > > byes > > >>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> > >>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > > >>>>>> pas > > > t. > > >>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > > >>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > > >>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > > >>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> > >>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us > > >>>>>> cremate > > > d > > >>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > > >>>>>> Flagstaf > > > f. > > >>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to > > > be > > >>>>>> planted in New Mexico.
> > >>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be > > >>>>> the > > >>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact > > >>>>> tha > > > t > > >>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > > >>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > > >>>>> s > > > ad > > >>>>> for you, and for all the family. > > >>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > > >>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a > > >>>>> more > > >>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> > >>>>> Thank you for sharing. > > >>>>> Hugs. > > >>>>> Bobbie
> > >>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary > > >>>> compared > > > to > > >>>> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > >>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > > >>> spa > > > ce > > >>> if everyone chose a green burial.
> > >> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. > > > When > > >> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > > >> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > > >> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction > > >> takes > > >> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monument > > > s are > > >> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> > >> I certainly think that the
> > >>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > >>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made > > >>> my > > >>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > > to > > >>> that. > > >>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > > to > > >>> Jazz players. > > >>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, > > >>> bu > > > t > > >>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > >>> Bobbie
> > > A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > > > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > > > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > > > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > > Judith
> > When their father died young and suddenly, my children became a little > > interested in how the process of death would affect me. I had a > > carpenter working in the house one day who was stilled by one of the > > children casually asking me, in his hearing, what I'd want to be > > buried in. This was only a few weeks after the death of their father > > and it was very much in their minds, of course. I said I couldn't care > > less as long as nobody argued about it - red tights, purple dress, > > jeans, no wishes at all. The carpenter had - until then - no idea > > what had happened and he was terribly shocked to hear this apparently > > random question, so I had to enlighten him later. Then I was asked for > > a few other details that I think they've now forgotten. So some time > > ago I wrote it down and sent it to them all, including the music etc. > > I think they thought it a bit macabre at the time but I explained that > > the idea was to save them stress and trouble. I said that if they want > > to mark my grave I would prefer a lump of un-dressed stone with > > whatever seems appropriate carved on it. I absolutely do not want some > > marble angel or florid headstone. Something lichen grows on > > comfortably will do me very well.
> > -- > > Sacha
> My children also know my wishes which are very simple, I am to be > dressed in a long cotton nightdress, natural fibres only, put me in a > cardboard box with a lid, just like a shoe box. I want rock and roll > music at the funeral service, also Freddie Mercurey singing Bohemian > Raphsody. I don't want a Requiem Mass. My final wish is that my ashes > are scattered to the 4 winds. I want them to make a party of the > day, after all I have lived a very full life and all good things have > to end. I firmly believe that I live on in the heart and memories of > my children and those who loved me.
> Judith > ---------------------
> That sounds quite sensible, including Freddie Mercury. My personal choice > of music would be Legs, by ZZ Top, but I suspect that Sweet Wife will choose > Amazing Grace, by whatsername. Perhaps I'll get both as my send off.
A friend got married, moons ago, to that song, played live and softly, it was very touching. Do you like Freddie's music? I do, I think he had an amazing voice.
> "Judith in France" <judith.le...@googlemail.com> wrote in > messagenews:276665f2-b5b6-4317-8fce-> On Nov 3, 11:58 pm, Sacha > <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote: > > <judith.le...@googlemail.com> said: > > > On Nov 3, 9:30 pm, "Phxbrd" <lesliesethhamm...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message > > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>>>> Bobbie > > >>>>> Bobbie > > >>> Bobbie > > > Judith > > Sacha > Judith
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> Customs are so affected by laws here. If we weren't cremated, the state > requires a coffin placed into a vacuum sealed vault, to avoid nitrogen in > the soil. It really takes a lot away from personal wishes. So we chose > cremation as an alternative to that.
> NormaK
Goodness Norma we don't have that here, most people in the local small burial ground are in tombs above ground. I went to a funeral for a neighbour and we all filed past the open tomb. One could see all the earlier occupants' coffins, so many different styles going back up to 200 years ago. My neighbour's son died when he was 6, I could see his tiny coffin next to where her coffin was placed, she was well into her mid to late 90's.
Judith
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This is big farm country, and part of what is called the "breadbasket" of the country. The composition of the soil is very important. It is even stipulated that farmers with a lot of workees have to have portable toilets for them to use.
With our custom of burying under the ground, the law has to prevail. It is from the US Public Health Department. A lot of families are chosing to be buried in the same space, which requires opening the vault for placement.
There are more and more mausoleums going up for burying above ground. My parents chose to do that.
I enjoy visiting old cemeteries in a lot of places, but with the lack of space, things will have to change.
LOL! What clever ideas! If I were going to be buried, I'd love the idea of being buried in a box of chocolates. However, I want to be cremated. My kids can do whatever they like with the ashes. I'd really like them to be scattered in the Outback near Alice Springs, in Oz, but I know that would be outrageously expensive. Anyway, I won't be around to care.
> Phxbrd wrote: > > It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > > circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have > > their > > own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health decline for > > the > > last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not accustomed to > > his > > wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's for sure. He doesn't > > speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to see me. He listened > > intently when I spoke with other family members. I know he wished he > > could > > set me straight on a number of issues. I'll always be his kid brother. > > We > > both knew our good byes were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> My thoughts are with you and the families. > Robert
And mine too Seth. I have a huge lump in my throat reading this as I can empathise. November is a sad month for me, my sister died in that month at the age of 60 and I too was the kid sister. When I last saw her, I, too, knew that I wouldn't be seeing her again. My heart goes out to you and for the emptiness you are feeling.
> > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > > >>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> > >>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like > > >>>>>>> sharing? > > >>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> > >>>>>>> Bobbie > > >>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > > >>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them ha > > > ve > > >>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > > >>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only on > > > es > > >>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down > > > , > > >>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he > > > was > > >>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other fami > > > ly > > >>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > > >>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good > > > byes > > >>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> > >>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > > >>>>>> pas > > > t. > > >>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died > > >>>>>> in > > >>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > > >>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > > >>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> > >>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us > > >>>>>> cremate > > > d > > >>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > > >>>>>> Flagstaf > > > f. > > >>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to > > > be > > >>>>>> planted in New Mexico.
> > >>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be > > >>>>> the > > >>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact > > >>>>> tha > > > t > > >>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes > > >>>>> and > > >>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been > > >>>>> very > > >>>>> s > > > ad > > >>>>> for you, and for all the family. > > >>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > > >>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a > > >>>>> more > > >>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> > >>>>> Thank you for sharing. > > >>>>> Hugs. > > >>>>> Bobbie
> > >>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary > > >>>> compared > > > to > > >>>> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > >>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > > >>> spa > > > ce > > >>> if everyone chose a green burial.
> > >> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. > > > When > > >> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had > > >> taken > > >> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > > >> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction > > >> takes > > >> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and > > >> monument > > > s are > > >> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> > >> I certainly think that the
> > >>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > >>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made > > >>> my > > >>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no > > >>> opposition > > > to > > >>> that. > > >>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often > > >>> afforded > > > to > > >>> Jazz players. > > >>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, > > >>> bu > > > t > > >>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > >>> Bobbie
> > > A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > > > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > > > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > > > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > > Judith
> > When their father died young and suddenly, my children became a little > > interested in how the process of death would affect me. I had a > > carpenter working in the house one day who was stilled by one of the > > children casually asking me, in his hearing, what I'd want to be > > buried in. This was only a few weeks after the death of their father > > and it was very much in their minds, of course. I said I couldn't care > > less as long as nobody argued about it - red tights, purple dress, > > jeans, no wishes at all. The carpenter had - until then - no idea > > what had happened and he was terribly shocked to hear this apparently > > random question, so I had to enlighten him later. Then I was asked for > > a few other details that I think they've now forgotten. So some time > > ago I wrote it down and sent it to them all, including the music etc. > > I think they thought it a bit macabre at the time but I explained that > > the idea was to save them stress and trouble. I said that if they want > > to mark my grave I would prefer a lump of un-dressed stone with > > whatever seems appropriate carved on it. I absolutely do not want some > > marble angel or florid headstone. Something lichen grows on > > comfortably will do me very well.
> > -- > > Sacha
> My children also know my wishes which are very simple, I am to be > dressed in a long cotton nightdress, natural fibres only, put me in a > cardboard box with a lid, just like a shoe box. I want rock and roll > music at the funeral service, also Freddie Mercurey singing Bohemian > Raphsody. I don't want a Requiem Mass. My final wish is that my ashes > are scattered to the 4 winds. I want them to make a party of the > day, after all I have lived a very full life and all good things have > to end. I firmly believe that I live on in the heart and memories of > my children and those who loved me.
> Judith > ---------------------
> That sounds quite sensible, including Freddie Mercury. My personal choice > of music would be Legs, by ZZ Top, but I suspect that Sweet Wife will > choose > Amazing Grace, by whatsername. Perhaps I'll get both as my send off.
A friend got married, moons ago, to that song, played live and softly, it was very touching. Do you like Freddie's music? I do, I think he had an amazing voice.
Judith ------------------------
I certainly did like all the Queen recordings. That makes me think of the 'yodel song', "Hocus Pocus", by Focus:
Norma - - we had bought a double lot, while living on Cape Cod, MA. My husband was cremated, and his ashes put into an urn, which is buried in the lot. The same will take place with me. The other half is for my oldest son and his wife, who had asked if they could share the grave lot with us. My younger son did not mind. We have no gravestone- but -we had someone dig up a fairly large rock from our own yard (at that time) and had it engraved with the necessary identification. It does seem unique among all the other gravestones - but I like it. Hard to think about- though - at my age!! Olly
"Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message > Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really > lovely woven coffin
Sacha wrote: > On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really >>> lovely woven coffin
>> Ah. Didn't hear of that.
> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather > Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used as > a coffee table until she needed it.
I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, what on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the funeral of Keith Floyd?
> On 2009-11-05 15:13:26 +0000, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> said:
> > Sacha wrote: > >> On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
> >>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really > >>>> lovely woven coffin
> >>> Ah. Didn't hear of that.
> >> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather > >> Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used as > >> a coffee table until she needed it.
> > I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, > > what on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the > > funeral of Keith Floyd?
> > Bobbie
> It had to do with coffins. Did you see that someone posted a piece on > unusual coffins? I think a scarlet coffin, used as a coffee table > until needed as a coffin, is fairly unusual! > -- > Sacha
> On 2009-11-05 15:13:26 +0000, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> said:
>> Sacha wrote: >>> On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really >>>>> lovely woven coffin
>>>> Ah. Didn't hear of that.
>>> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather >>> Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used as >>> a coffee table until she needed it.
>> I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, what >> on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the >> funeral of Keith Floyd?
>> Bobbie
> It had to do with coffins. Did you see that someone posted a piece on > unusual coffins? I think a scarlet coffin, used as a coffee table until > needed as a coffin, is fairly unusual!
> On 2009-11-05 16:34:04 +0000, Judith in France > <judith.le...@googlemail.com> said:
> > On Nov 5, 4:32 pm, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> On 2009-11-05 15:13:26 +0000, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> said:
> >>> Sacha wrote: > >>>> On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
> >>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really > >>>>>> lovely woven coffin
> >>>>> Ah. Didn't hear of that.
> >>>> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather > >>>> Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used a > > s > >>>> a coffee table until she needed it.
> >>> I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, > >>> what on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the > >>> funeral of Keith Floyd?
> >>> Bobbie
> >> It had to do with coffins. Did you see that someone posted a piece on > >> unusual coffins? I think a scarlet coffin, used as a coffee table > >> until needed as a coffin, is fairly unusual! > >> -- > >> Sacha
> > :-)
> > Judith
> It's a bummer when people read posts mistakenly. ;-)) Got to laugh people! > -- > Sacha
Oh well, none of us are perfect are we, I'm the first to admit when I make a mistake, otherwise I would become a figure of derision. When I was at school, I always owned up when the class was asked who did this or who did that, it was usually me anyway. The times I didn't own up, the teachers, without question, knew they it wasn't me. Now what is that to do with coffins, oh I know, A Nail in One's Coffin? :-)
Sacha wrote: > On 2009-11-05 15:13:26 +0000, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> said:
>> Sacha wrote: >>> On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really >>>>> lovely woven coffin
>>>> Ah. Didn't hear of that.
>>> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather >>> Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used >>> as a coffee table until she needed it.
>> I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, >> what on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the >> funeral of Keith Floyd?
>> Bobbie
> It had to do with coffins. Did you see that someone posted a piece on > unusual coffins? I think a scarlet coffin, used as a coffee table until > needed as a coffin, is fairly unusual!
ah I see, now that would be something indeed. Isn't she the lady that wrote The Camomile Lawn?
>Sacha wrote: >> On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really >>>> lovely woven coffin
>>> Ah. Didn't hear of that. >> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather >>Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used >>as a coffee table until she needed it.
>I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, >what on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the >funeral of Keith Floyd?
>Bobbie
They were lovers. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
<Gordon_N...@g3snx.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote: >In message <7lg8c9F3dkve...@mid.individual.net>, Bobbie ><homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> writes >>Sacha wrote: >>> On 2009-11-05 06:54:48 +0000, "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> said:
>>>> "Janet Baraclough" <janet.and.j...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) and he had a really >>>>> lovely woven coffin
>>>> Ah. Didn't hear of that. >>> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather >>>Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she used >>>as a coffee table until she needed it.
>>I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, >>what on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the >>funeral of Keith Floyd?
> >>>>> Some weeks back a celeb died here (Keith Floyd) > >>>>> and he had a really lovely woven coffin
> >>>> Ah. Didn't hear of that.
> >>> Mary Wesley, the author, lived near here in Totnes. In a rather > >>> Totnesian fashion, she had a scarlet lacquered coffin which she > >>> used as a coffee table until she needed it.
> >> I do realise this was not intended for me but I am prompted to ask, what > >> on earth has Mary Wesley got to do with the funeral of Keith Floyd?
> > ... and none if has anything whatsoever to do with cabbages...
> Goodness me you're right, Anne. Slapped wrists all round. Now, how > did strange coffins come into this..... > -- > Sacha- Hide quoted text -
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