In fact I love sprouts and cabbage. Savoy cabbage when boiled, though rather pungent, makes a really good vegetable stock for soup. I used to eat everyone else's cabbage at school. I like sprouts in stir-fry. We are already picking tiny sprouts from the veggie patch. I also like cauliflower, we grow that too, and broccoli. Sprouts aren't just for Christmas.
Bobbie ~ who also loves swede and mashed potato with lots of butter and pepper.
> In fact I love sprouts and cabbage. Savoy cabbage when boiled, though > rather pungent, makes a really good vegetable stock for soup. > I used to eat everyone else's cabbage at school. > I like sprouts in stir-fry. > We are already picking tiny sprouts from the veggie patch. > I also like cauliflower, we grow that too, and broccoli. > Sprouts aren't just for Christmas.
> Bobbie ~ who also loves swede and mashed potato with lots of butter and > pepper.
I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
Phxbrd wrote: > "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7lauaiF3dd1mcU1@mid.individual.net... >> In fact I love sprouts and cabbage. Savoy cabbage when boiled, though >> rather pungent, makes a really good vegetable stock for soup. >> I used to eat everyone else's cabbage at school. >> I like sprouts in stir-fry. >> We are already picking tiny sprouts from the veggie patch. >> I also like cauliflower, we grow that too, and broccoli. >> Sprouts aren't just for Christmas.
>> Bobbie ~ who also loves swede and mashed potato with lots of butter and >> pepper.
> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent years > found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
I make mine, fine cut, and yes it is good with BBQ. Not sure I could eat a bucket load but I certainly don't buy it, always make my own, I have this gadget that cuts the veg rilly, rilly fine. Hope you are OK!
>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent >> years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> Bobbie
It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the past. My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated and scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaff. Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be planted in New Mexico.
Phxbrd wrote: > "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... >>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent >>> years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? >> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
>> Bobbie
> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have their > own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health decline for the > last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not accustomed to his > wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's for sure. He doesn't > speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to see me. He listened > intently when I spoke with other family members. I know he wished he could > set me straight on a number of issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We > both knew our good byes were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the past. My > brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in recent > decades. All have a place where they want their ashes scattered, usually > with their mate. My brother and his wife will become part of the Blue Ridge > Parkway.
> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated and > scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaff. Arizona > has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be planted in New > Mexico.
What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very sad for you, and for all the family. A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> Phxbrd wrote: >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:7lauaiF3dd1mcU1@mid.individual.net... >>> In fact I love sprouts and cabbage. Savoy cabbage when boiled, though >>> rather pungent, makes a really good vegetable stock for soup. >>> I used to eat everyone else's cabbage at school. >>> I like sprouts in stir-fry. >>> We are already picking tiny sprouts from the veggie patch. >>> I also like cauliflower, we grow that too, and broccoli. >>> Sprouts aren't just for Christmas.
>>> Bobbie ~ who also loves swede and mashed potato with lots of butter and >>> pepper.
>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent >> years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> I make mine, fine cut, and yes it is good with BBQ. Not sure I could eat a > bucket load but I certainly don't buy it, always make my own, I have this > gadget that cuts the veg rilly, rilly fine. > Hope you are OK!
> Bobbie
A lot of Mexican dishes include cabbage, including Baja style tacos. Lettuce of any kind has never been a traditional veggy in Mexico, but I guess it's gaining favor there now.
> Phxbrd wrote: >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... >>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent >>>> years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? >>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
>>> Bobbie
>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful >> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have >> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health >> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not >> accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's >> for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to >> see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family members. I >> know he wished he could set me straight on a number of issues. I'll >> always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes were our last >> ones. I didn't cry until then.
>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the past. >> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in recent >> decades. All have a place where they want their ashes scattered, usually >> with their mate. My brother and his wife will become part of the Blue >> Ridge Parkway.
>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated and >> scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaff. >> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be >> planted in New Mexico.
> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the last > time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that you did > make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and that he was > fully aware of your being there. It must have been very sad for you, and > for all the family. > A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> Thank you for sharing. > Hugs. > Bobbie
IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared to the even more simple and natural green burial:
Phxbrd wrote: > "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... >> Phxbrd wrote: >>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... >>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in recent >>>>> years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? >>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
>>>> Bobbie >>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful >>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have >>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health >>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not >>> accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's >>> for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to >>> see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family members. I >>> know he wished he could set me straight on a number of issues. I'll >>> always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes were our last >>> ones. I didn't cry until then.
>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the past. >>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in recent >>> decades. All have a place where they want their ashes scattered, usually >>> with their mate. My brother and his wife will become part of the Blue >>> Ridge Parkway.
>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated and >>> scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaff. >>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be >>> planted in New Mexico.
>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the last >> time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that you did >> make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and that he was >> fully aware of your being there. It must have been very sad for you, and >> for all the family. >> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see >> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more >> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
>> Thank you for sharing. >> Hugs. >> Bobbie
> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared to > the even more simple and natural green burial:
Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of space if everyone chose a green burial. I certainly think that the amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition to that. I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded to Jazz players. The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
In message <7lauaiF3dd1m...@mid.individual.net>, Bobbie <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> writes
>In fact I love sprouts and cabbage. Savoy cabbage when boiled, though >rather pungent, makes a really good vegetable stock for soup. >I used to eat everyone else's cabbage at school. >I like sprouts in stir-fry. >We are already picking tiny sprouts from the veggie patch. >I also like cauliflower, we grow that too, and broccoli. >Sprouts aren't just for Christmas.
>Bobbie ~ who also loves swede and mashed potato with lots of butter and >pepper.
Sliced cabbage with bacon is a favourite meal of Mavis's when she runs out of food and pension. :-) Quite tasty, too. -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
> Phxbrd wrote: >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... >>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in >>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? >>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
>>>>> Bobbie >>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful >>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have >>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health >>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones >>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, >>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was >>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family >>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of >>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes >>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the past. >>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in >>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes >>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will >>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated >>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaff. >>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be >>>> planted in New Mexico.
>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the >>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that >>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and >>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very sad >>> for you, and for all the family. >>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see >>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more >>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
>>> Thank you for sharing. >>> Hugs. >>> Bobbie
>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared to >> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of space > if everyone chose a green burial.
It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments are simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition to > that. > I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded to > Jazz players. > The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but > prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > Phxbrd wrote: > >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> >>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> >>>>> Bobbie > >>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have > >>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones > >>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, > >>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was > >>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family > >>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes > >>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> >>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the past. > >>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> >>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated > >>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaff. > >>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be > >>>> planted in New Mexico.
> >>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the > >>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that > >>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very sad > >>> for you, and for all the family. > >>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > >>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> >>> Thank you for sharing. > >>> Hugs. > >>> Bobbie
> >> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared to > >> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of space > > if everyone chose a green burial.
> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When > there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes > place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments are > simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> I certainly think that the
> > amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > > wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition to > > that. > > I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded to > > Jazz players. > > The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but > > prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > Bobbie
A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > Phxbrd wrote: > >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> >>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> >>>>> Bobbie > >>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have > >>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones > >>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, > >>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was > >>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family > >>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes > >>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> >>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > >>>> past. > >>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> >>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated > >>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > >>>> Flagstaff. > >>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be > >>>> planted in New Mexico.
> >>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the > >>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that > >>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > >>> sad > >>> for you, and for all the family. > >>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > >>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> >>> Thank you for sharing. > >>> Hugs. > >>> Bobbie
> >> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared > >> to > >> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > > space > > if everyone chose a green burial.
> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When > there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes > place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments > are > simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> I certainly think that the
> > amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > > wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > to > > that. > > I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > to > > Jazz players. > > The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but > > prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > Bobbie
A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
Judith ----------------------
I like that. More people have been buried that way than any other. It's too bad it's gone out of style.
> >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> >>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> >>>>>>> Bobbie > >>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them ha > > ve > >>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only on > > es > >>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down > > , > >>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he > > was > >>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other fami > > ly > >>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good > > byes > >>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> >>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the pas > > t. > >>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> >>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremate > > d > >>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near Flagstaf > > f. > >>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to > > be > >>>>>> planted in New Mexico.
> >>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the > >>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact tha > > t > >>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very s > > ad > >>>>> for you, and for all the family. > >>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > >>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> >>>>> Thank you for sharing. > >>>>> Hugs. > >>>>> Bobbie
> >>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared > > to > >>>> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> >>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of spa > > ce > >>> if everyone chose a green burial.
> >> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. > > When > >> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > >> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > >> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes > >> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monument > > s are > >> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> >> I certainly think that the
> >>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > >>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > >>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > to > >>> that. > >>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > to > >>> Jazz players. > >>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, bu > > t > >>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> >>> Bobbie
> > A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > Judith
> When their father died young and suddenly, my children became a little > interested in how the process of death would affect me. I had a > carpenter working in the house one day who was stilled by one of the > children casually asking me, in his hearing, what I'd want to be > buried in. This was only a few weeks after the death of their father > and it was very much in their minds, of course. I said I couldn't care > less as long as nobody argued about it - red tights, purple dress, > jeans, no wishes at all. The carpenter had - until then - no idea > what had happened and he was terribly shocked to hear this apparently > random question, so I had to enlighten him later. Then I was asked for > a few other details that I think they've now forgotten. So some time > ago I wrote it down and sent it to them all, including the music etc. > I think they thought it a bit macabre at the time but I explained that > the idea was to save them stress and trouble. I said that if they want > to mark my grave I would prefer a lump of un-dressed stone with > whatever seems appropriate carved on it. I absolutely do not want some > marble angel or florid headstone. Something lichen grows on > comfortably will do me very well.
> -- > Sacha
My children also know my wishes which are very simple, I am to be dressed in a long cotton nightdress, natural fibres only, put me in a cardboard box with a lid, just like a shoe box. I want rock and roll music at the funeral service, also Freddie Mercurey singing Bohemian Raphsody. I don't want a Requiem Mass. My final wish is that my ashes are scattered to the 4 winds. I want them to make a party of the day, after all I have lived a very full life and all good things have to end. I firmly believe that I live on in the heart and memories of my children and those who loved me.
> > > Phxbrd wrote: > > >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > > >>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > > >>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > > >>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> > >>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > > >>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> > >>>>> Bobbie > > >>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > > >>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have > > >>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > > >>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones > > >>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, > > >>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was > > >>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family > > >>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > > >>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes > > >>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> > >>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > > >>>> past. > > >>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > > >>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > > >>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > > >>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> > >>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated > > >>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > > >>>> Flagstaff. > > >>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be > > >>>> planted in New Mexico.
> > >>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the > > >>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that > > >>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > > >>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > > >>> sad > > >>> for you, and for all the family. > > >>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > > >>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > > >>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> > >>> Thank you for sharing. > > >>> Hugs. > > >>> Bobbie
> > >> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared > > >> to > > >> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > > Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > > > space > > > if everyone chose a green burial.
> > It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When > > there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > > place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > > cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes > > place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments > > are > > simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> > I certainly think that the
> > > amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > > intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > > > wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > > to > > > that. > > > I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > > to > > > Jazz players. > > > The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but > > > prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > > Bobbie
> A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> Judith > ----------------------
> I like that. More people have been buried that way than any other. It's > too bad it's gone out of style.
It seems to be coming back Seth, Colney Wood at Norwich is a relatively new thing. I walked through it about 2 years ago, not long after it opened and it was a lovely place to be, meandering through the wooded paths, turning a corner and seeing a name written on a small boulder, turning another corner and seeing a tiny wooden cross, simple, with just the person's name. The place was teeming in bluebells. The paths meandered up to a small mount and someone had bought it, that someone was still living but had chosen their final resting place, I can't describe the beauty of the place, everything there has to be a natural burial, no headstones, no flower vases, just nature.
> > Phxbrd wrote: > >> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> >>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> >>>>> Bobbie > >>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have > >>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones > >>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, > >>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was > >>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family > >>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes > >>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> >>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > >>>> past. > >>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> >>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated > >>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > >>>> Flagstaff. > >>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be > >>>> planted in New Mexico.
> >>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the > >>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that > >>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > >>> sad > >>> for you, and for all the family. > >>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more > >>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> >>> Thank you for sharing. > >>> Hugs. > >>> Bobbie
> >> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared > >> to > >> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> > Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > > space > > if everyone chose a green burial.
> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When > there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes > place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments > are > simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> I certainly think that the
> > amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > > intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my > > wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > to > > that. > > I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > to > > Jazz players. > > The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but > > prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> > Bobbie
A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
Judith
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We have ours planned and our ashes will be mixed and placed directly into the ground. The families know the placement, and that is who matters. (There will be an entry in a county record, of course, as the government has to be kept informed--for the usual reasons.)
Our children, of course, want a place to come to as a celebration of our lives.
> >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> >>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> >>>>>>> Bobbie > >>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them ha > > ve > >>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only on > > es > >>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down > > , > >>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he > > was > >>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other fami > > ly > >>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good > > byes > >>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> >>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > >>>>>> pas > > t. > >>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> >>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us > >>>>>> cremate > > d > >>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > >>>>>> Flagstaf > > f. > >>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to > > be > >>>>>> planted in New Mexico.
> >>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be > >>>>> the > >>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact > >>>>> tha > > t > >>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > >>>>> s > > ad > >>>>> for you, and for all the family. > >>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a > >>>>> more > >>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> >>>>> Thank you for sharing. > >>>>> Hugs. > >>>>> Bobbie
> >>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary > >>>> compared > > to > >>>> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> >>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > >>> spa > > ce > >>> if everyone chose a green burial.
> >> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. > > When > >> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > >> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > >> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction > >> takes > >> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monument > > s are > >> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> >> I certainly think that the
> >>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > >>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made > >>> my > >>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > to > >>> that. > >>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > to > >>> Jazz players. > >>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, > >>> bu > > t > >>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> >>> Bobbie
> > A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > Judith
> When their father died young and suddenly, my children became a little > interested in how the process of death would affect me. I had a > carpenter working in the house one day who was stilled by one of the > children casually asking me, in his hearing, what I'd want to be > buried in. This was only a few weeks after the death of their father > and it was very much in their minds, of course. I said I couldn't care > less as long as nobody argued about it - red tights, purple dress, > jeans, no wishes at all. The carpenter had - until then - no idea > what had happened and he was terribly shocked to hear this apparently > random question, so I had to enlighten him later. Then I was asked for > a few other details that I think they've now forgotten. So some time > ago I wrote it down and sent it to them all, including the music etc. > I think they thought it a bit macabre at the time but I explained that > the idea was to save them stress and trouble. I said that if they want > to mark my grave I would prefer a lump of un-dressed stone with > whatever seems appropriate carved on it. I absolutely do not want some > marble angel or florid headstone. Something lichen grows on > comfortably will do me very well.
> -- > Sacha
My children also know my wishes which are very simple, I am to be dressed in a long cotton nightdress, natural fibres only, put me in a cardboard box with a lid, just like a shoe box. I want rock and roll music at the funeral service, also Freddie Mercurey singing Bohemian Raphsody. I don't want a Requiem Mass. My final wish is that my ashes are scattered to the 4 winds. I want them to make a party of the day, after all I have lived a very full life and all good things have to end. I firmly believe that I live on in the heart and memories of my children and those who loved me.
Judith
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Customs are so affected by laws here. If we weren't cremated, the state requires a coffin placed into a vacuum sealed vault, to avoid nitrogen in the soil. It really takes a lot away from personal wishes. So we chose cremation as an alternative to that.
>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>> news:7lbdjkF3c5t8tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in >>>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge. >>>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? >>>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful. >>>>>>>> Bobbie >>>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful >>>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have >>>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health >>>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones >>>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, >>>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was >>>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family >>>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of >>>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes >>>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then. >>>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the >>>>>>> past. >>>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in >>>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes >>>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will >>>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway. >>>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us cremated >>>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near >>>>>>> Flagstaff. >>>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be >>>>>>> planted in New Mexico. >>>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be the >>>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact that >>>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and >>>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very >>>>>> sad >>>>>> for you, and for all the family. >>>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see >>>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a more >>>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though >>>>>> Thank you for sharing. >>>>>> Hugs. >>>>>> Bobbie >>>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary compared >>>>> to >>>>> the even more simple and natural green burial: >>>>> http://www.greenburials.org/index.htm >>>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of >>>> space >>>> if everyone chose a green burial. >>> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. When >>> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken >>> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but >>> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction takes >>> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments >>> are >>> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore. >>> I certainly think that the >>>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I >>>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made my >>>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition >>>> to >>>> that. >>>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded >>>> to >>>> Jazz players. >>>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, but >>>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills. >>>> Bobbie >> A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural >> burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died >> about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in >> bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
>> Judith >> ----------------------
>> I like that. More people have been buried that way than any other. It's >> too bad it's gone out of style.
> It seems to be coming back Seth, Colney Wood at Norwich is a > relatively new thing. I walked through it about 2 years ago, not long > after it opened and it was a lovely place to be, meandering through > the wooded paths, turning a corner and seeing a name written on a > small boulder, turning another corner and seeing a tiny wooden cross, > simple, with just the person's name. The place was teeming in > bluebells. The paths meandered up to a small mount and someone had > bought it, that someone was still living but had chosen their final > resting place, I can't describe the beauty of the place, everything > there has to be a natural burial, no headstones, no flower vases, just > nature.
> >>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... > >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: > >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... > >>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in > >>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge.
> >>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? > >>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful.
> >>>>>>> Bobbie > >>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > >>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them ha > > ve > >>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health > >>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only on > > es > >>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down > > , > >>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he > > was > >>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other fami > > ly > >>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of > >>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good > > byes > >>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
> >>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the > >>>>>> pas > > t. > >>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in > >>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes > >>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will > >>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway.
> >>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us > >>>>>> cremate > > d > >>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near > >>>>>> Flagstaf > > f. > >>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to > > be > >>>>>> planted in New Mexico.
> >>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be > >>>>> the > >>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact > >>>>> tha > > t > >>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and > >>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very > >>>>> s > > ad > >>>>> for you, and for all the family. > >>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see > >>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a > >>>>> more > >>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though
> >>>>> Thank you for sharing. > >>>>> Hugs. > >>>>> Bobbie
> >>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary > >>>> compared > > to > >>>> the even more simple and natural green burial:
> >>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of > >>> spa > > ce > >>> if everyone chose a green burial.
> >> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. > > When > >> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken > >> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but > >> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction > >> takes > >> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monument > > s are > >> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore.
> >> I certainly think that the
> >>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I > >>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made > >>> my > >>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition > > to > >>> that. > >>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded > > to > >>> Jazz players. > >>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, > >>> bu > > t > >>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills.
> >>> Bobbie
> > A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural > > burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died > > about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in > > bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
> > Judith
> When their father died young and suddenly, my children became a little > interested in how the process of death would affect me. I had a > carpenter working in the house one day who was stilled by one of the > children casually asking me, in his hearing, what I'd want to be > buried in. This was only a few weeks after the death of their father > and it was very much in their minds, of course. I said I couldn't care > less as long as nobody argued about it - red tights, purple dress, > jeans, no wishes at all. The carpenter had - until then - no idea > what had happened and he was terribly shocked to hear this apparently > random question, so I had to enlighten him later. Then I was asked for > a few other details that I think they've now forgotten. So some time > ago I wrote it down and sent it to them all, including the music etc. > I think they thought it a bit macabre at the time but I explained that > the idea was to save them stress and trouble. I said that if they want > to mark my grave I would prefer a lump of un-dressed stone with > whatever seems appropriate carved on it. I absolutely do not want some > marble angel or florid headstone. Something lichen grows on > comfortably will do me very well.
> -- > Sacha
My children also know my wishes which are very simple, I am to be dressed in a long cotton nightdress, natural fibres only, put me in a cardboard box with a lid, just like a shoe box. I want rock and roll music at the funeral service, also Freddie Mercurey singing Bohemian Raphsody. I don't want a Requiem Mass. My final wish is that my ashes are scattered to the 4 winds. I want them to make a party of the day, after all I have lived a very full life and all good things have to end. I firmly believe that I live on in the heart and memories of my children and those who loved me.
Judith ---------------------
That sounds quite sensible, including Freddie Mercury. My personal choice of music would be Legs, by ZZ Top, but I suspect that Sweet Wife will choose Amazing Grace, by whatsername. Perhaps I'll get both as my send off.
What fun! I rather like the "Gone to Seed." So taken with the idea of a Return to Nature I am in the middle of a search now.. I don't know why they wont just let John dig a hole in the garden, there is enough of it. I nice little plot in the Wild garden among the daffs and the chiondoxa. There would never be any need for flowers, because I would provide the bone meal for the Seasonal floral display. What a great thought. :-) All the faff about funerals and wondering if anyone will say anything nice about you. They better of I will come back to haunt them. <cue daft eerie music> I hope the dogs wont dig me up. I know that we had three legged rescued poodle that kept digging up the various hamsters and mice and gold fish.
Phxbrd wrote: > It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful > circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have their > own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health decline for the > last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not accustomed to his > wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's for sure. He doesn't > speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to see me. He listened > intently when I spoke with other family members. I know he wished he could > set me straight on a number of issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We > both knew our good byes were our last ones. I didn't cry until then.
>>>> "Bobbie" <comfyc...@myhousie.net> wrote in message >>>> news:7lbdjkF3c5t8tU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:7lb49uF3de7rfU1@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> Phxbrd wrote: >>>>>>>> "Bobbie" <homefraih...@myhoose.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:7lb1i5F391i86U3@mid.individual.net... >>>>>>>>>> I can eat a bucket of cole slaw if if it's cut fine. I only in >>>>>>>>>> recent years found that it's delicious on a pork BBQ samwidge. >>>>>>>>> Seth, you are back. How's things. Anything you feel like sharing? >>>>>>>>> I do hope your visit wasn't too stressful. >>>>>>>>> Bobbie >>>>>>>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful >>>>>>>> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have >>>>>>>> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health >>>>>>>> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones >>>>>>>> not accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, >>>>>>>> that's for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>> glad to see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family >>>>>>>> members. I know he wished he could set me straight on a number of >>>>>>>> issues. I'll always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes >>>>>>>> were our last ones. I didn't cry until then. >>>>>>>> It seems like funerals and cemeteries have become a thing of the >>>>>>>> past. >>>>>>>> My brother will be cremated like everyone I've known who's died in >>>>>>>> recent decades. All have a place where they want their ashes >>>>>>>> scattered, usually with their mate. My brother and his wife will >>>>>>>> become part of the Blue Ridge Parkway. >>>>>>>> Green burials make more sense to me, but Sweet Wife wants us >>>>>>>> cremated >>>>>>>> and scattered together in a special place in the woods near >>>>>>>> Flagstaff. >>>>>>>> Arizona has no green burial lots in Arizona, anyway. I'd have to be >>>>>>>> planted in New Mexico. >>>>>>> What a beautiful post Seth. I am so sorry that it is likely to be >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> last time you see your big brother but take comfort from the fact >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> you did make that journey and you were able to say your goodbyes and >>>>>>> that he was fully aware of your being there. It must have been very >>>>>>> sad >>>>>>> for you, and for all the family. >>>>>>> A simple sending off Seth. A cremation. my choice also. Having see >>>>>>> pictures of Mabry Mill on Blue Ridge Parkway, I can't think of a >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> beautiful place to be a part of. A long way from Phoenix though >>>>>>> Thank you for sharing. >>>>>>> Hugs. >>>>>>> Bobbie >>>>>> IMHO, even cremation seems contrived and entirely unnecessary >>>>>> compared >>>>>> to >>>>>> the even more simple and natural green burial: >>>>>> http://www.greenburials.org/index.htm >>>>> Of course I agree but sadly our little Island would soon run out of >>>>> space >>>>> if everyone chose a green burial. >>>> It doesn't take long for a green burial body to completely decompose. >>>> When >>>> there's no monument or marker, how would anyone know a burial had taken >>>> place at any given spot after 100 years? Local laws may vary, but >>>> cemeteries have been legally obliterated here when new construction >>>> takes >>>> place after the newest grave is 100 years old. Headstones and monuments >>>> are >>>> simply stored elsewhere until no one cares anymore. >>>> I certainly think that the >>>>> amounts of money some people pay for a funeral are almost obscene. I >>>>> intend that my funeral will cost as little as possible and have made >>>>> my >>>>> wishes known to all the family. I suspect they will have no opposition >>>>> to >>>>> that. >>>>> I know that John would like the send off that we see so often afforded >>>>> to >>>>> Jazz players. >>>>> The full works, then cremation. He does qualify for a burial at sea, >>>>> but >>>>> prefers to have his ashes scattered on the Purbeck Hills. >>>>> Bobbie >>> A friend of mine is buried at Colney, Norwich, she had a natural >>> burial, no stone markers, she has a tree to mark her name. She died >>> about 3 years ago, too young, her natural grave is covered in >>> bluebells, no coffin, just her and nature.
>>> Judith >>> ----------------------
>>> I like that. More people have been buried that way than any other. >>> It's >>> too bad it's gone out of style.
>> It seems to be coming back Seth, Colney Wood at Norwich is a >> relatively new thing. I walked through it about 2 years ago, not long >> after it opened and it was a lovely place to be, meandering through >> the wooded paths, turning a corner and seeing a name written on a >> small boulder, turning another corner and seeing a tiny wooden cross, >> simple, with just the person's name. The place was teeming in >> bluebells. The paths meandered up to a small mount and someone had >> bought it, that someone was still living but had chosen their final >> resting place, I can't describe the beauty of the place, everything >> there has to be a natural burial, no headstones, no flower vases, just >> nature.
>> Judith
> That's what I want. Return to nature.
> -- > Jean B.
A common expression among many American Indians is "Leave No Sign".
>> It was good to be with family again, even under such sorrowful >> circumstances. My brother has five children, and three of them have >> their own children. The lot of them have seen my brother's health >> decline for the last year and a half. Me and mine are the only ones not >> accustomed to his wasted condition. His days are winding down, that's >> for sure. He doesn't speak much, but I could tell that he was glad to >> see me. He listened intently when I spoke with other family members. I >> know he wished he could set me straight on a number of issues. I'll >> always be his kid brother. We both knew our good byes were our last >> ones. I didn't cry until then.
> My thoughts are with you and the families. > Robert
>Judith in France wrote: >> It seems to be coming back Seth, Colney Wood at Norwich is a >> relatively new thing. I walked through it about 2 years ago, not long >> after it opened and it was a lovely place to be, meandering through >> the wooded paths, turning a corner and seeing a name written on a >> small boulder, turning another corner and seeing a tiny wooden cross, >> simple, with just the person's name. The place was teeming in >> bluebells. The paths meandered up to a small mount and someone had >> bought it, that someone was still living but had chosen their final >> resting place, I can't describe the beauty of the place, everything >> there has to be a natural burial, no headstones, no flower vases, just >> nature. >> Judith
>That's what I want. Return to nature.
Good place to have a sniff around with a metal detector, then. ;-) -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply
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