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Ed K  
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 More options Oct 31, 10:42 am
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
From: Ed K <edkom...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:42:57 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 31 2009 10:42 am
Subject: Translating "Nutrition Facts" Lables into something useful
I've lost 40 lbs (15% of my starting weight) and lowered my blood
pressure considerably loosely following a common-sense low-carb diet
(cutting out all soda, obvious starchy/sugary food and increasing
animal protein), but I've plateaued for several months and still have
about 30 lbs to go...so it's time to take it a step further.  I'm
taking  a closer look at what I eat and need a bit of help better
understanding how I can translate/condense what's given on a
Nutritional Facts lable into something more useful for me.

Cals and how many Cals come from fat are easy to find, but then they
list Carbs and Protein in grams, which is great and all, but I'd love
to know how many Cals come from Carbs and Proteins too.  I doubt
there's a standard formula for this (though that would be great), but
even a rule-of-thumb would be handy.


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trader4@optonline.net  
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 More options Oct 31, 5:15 pm
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From: "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:15:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 31 2009 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Translating "Nutrition Facts" Lables into something useful
On Oct 31, 5:42 am, Ed K <edkom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've lost 40 lbs (15% of my starting weight) and lowered my blood
> pressure considerably loosely following a common-sense low-carb diet
> (cutting out all soda, obvious starchy/sugary food and increasing
> animal protein), but I've plateaued for several months and still have
> about 30 lbs to go...so it's time to take it a step further.  I'm
> taking  a closer look at what I eat and need a bit of help better
> understanding how I can translate/condense what's given on a
> Nutritional Facts lable into something more useful for me.

> Cals and how many Cals come from fat are easy to find, but then they
> list Carbs and Protein in grams, which is great and all, but I'd love
> to know how many Cals come from Carbs and Proteins too.  I doubt
> there's a standard formula for this (though that would be great), but
> even a rule-of-thumb would be handy.

Actually there is a standard formula.   Fat is 9cal/gram, protein and
carb are 4cal/gram.   It's also generally accepted that fiber does not
get metabolized as a carb, so you can deduct fiber from the carb
count.   So, in the USA if a label lists 10g of carb, 4 fiber, you
would only count 6g as carb as part of a lc plan.   If you add up the
counts on labels they usually come out close, but not exactly due to
rounding and the way the numbers are actually calculated.   Sometimes
however you will find labels that don't add up and are a real mystery.

Another source of info is the USDA nutritional database which is
available online.  They have all the common vegetables, raw foods, etc
as well as many prepared foods.

Congratulations on your success.


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EMK  
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 More options Oct 31, 7:21 pm
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
From: EMK <edkom...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 31 2009 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: Translating "Nutrition Facts" Lables into something useful
On Oct 31, 12:15 pm, "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
wrote:

Thanks much!  I knew someone here would get me pointed in the right
direction.  Have a great rest of the weekend!

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Doug Freyburger  
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 More options Nov 3, 11:33 pm
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet.low-carb
From: Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:33:53 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: Translating "Nutrition Facts" Lables into something useful

trad...@optonline.net wrote:

> Actually there is a standard formula.   Fat is 9cal/gram, protein and
> carb are 4cal/gram.   It's also generally accepted that fiber does not
> get metabolized as a carb, so you can deduct fiber from the carb
> count.

If you're counting calories it's suggested to count fiber at half of the
carb count.  Fiber is estimated at 2 calories per gram.  The difference
in calorie count is probably small enough that it doesn't matter if you
count fiber or not.

> So, in the USA if a label lists 10g of carb, 4 fiber, you
> would only count 6g as carb as part of a lc plan.   If you add up the
> counts on labels they usually come out close, but not exactly due to
> rounding and the way the numbers are actually calculated.   Sometimes
> however you will find labels that don't add up and are a real mystery.

Most European labels and some US labels pre-deduct the fiber from the
carb count.  Wouldn't it be nice if everyone agreed and did the same
thing?  Sigh.

The example doesn't include protein or fat so let's call it a treat
item.  If it's calorie count is 40 the label does not pre-deduct fiber.
If it's calorie count is 32 then they do the rare counting of fiber at
2 calories per gram.  If the count is 24 then they pre-deduct the fiber.
If there is any doubt try the arithmatic both ways to figure out of they
pre-deducted the fiber.

Fiber pre-deduction handles some of the confusing labels.  US labelling
laws also allow more generous round-off than European labels so 0.4
grams get rounded down to zero.  Portion sizes are *often* selected to
show zero when it's really about half.  Consider a cup of heavy cream
has 6 grams of carb.  8 floz at just under 1 per floz.  16 tablespoons
at just enough under 0.5 that it gets rounded to zero and poof those 6
grams of carb magically disappear.  It is also allowed to call a portion
under 5 calories zero and so on.

But even knowing all of the above there are labels that just don't add
up.


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