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tripsovercats@msn.com  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 9:40 am
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From: "tripsoverc...@msn.com" <tripsoverc...@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:40:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 9:40 am
Subject: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse
This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

From: http://mync.com/site/44620/ Fayetteville, N.C.

Several people who were close to 5-year-old Shaniya Davis and her
father Brad Lockhart say they tried to intervene in the child's life
because they felt the little girl was at risk.

A close friend of Brad's, and his ex-father-in-law both say they
offered to take in Shaniya rather than let her live with her mother,
because they say when the child was in the custody of her mother, bad
things happened to her.

"My wife says she saw cigarette burns on Shaniya's arms," said Brad's
friend Tim Allen, who says he is very angry over what happened.

Byron Coleman, Brad's ex-father-in-law, said Shaniya "had burns on her
legs, arms and things" after visits with her mother.

"She had a cigarette burn on the corner of her eye, which she claimed
her grandma did when she went over there," added Shaniya's half sister
Cheyenne Lockhart.

The three all claimed that the 5-year-old suffered physical abuse
while in the custody of her mother.

"When you wanted sex that's where you went," Coleman said. "You knew
what the girl was doing. You knew what she associated with, so why
place your daughter in that situation?"

Because of that, Coleman blames Lockhart for Shaniya's death.

"To me Shaniya would be alive today if she wasn't placed in that
situation," Coleman claims.

Coleman says he offered to give Shaniya a home, but says Brad declined
his offer.

Allen tells a similar story.

"He had an alternative, I gave him a way out," Allen explained;
however Lockhart would not let Allen take care of Shaniya.

"I'm fighting mad. All this could have been avoided," Allen said.

Allen had already taken in Shaniya's half sister Cheyenne, because she
said her dad wouldn't take care of her.

And Cheyenne says Brad did not provide for Shaniya.

"He didn't take care of her, his girlfriends took care of her," she
said. "He loved her, but she was raised by other people. He hasn't
been in her life."

Meanwhile, the Cumberland County Department of Social Services said it
can not comment on what it was doing in regard to Shaniya because
those comments might compromise the on-going criminal investigation.


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 More options Nov 20 2009, 9:58 am
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From: "tripsoverc...@msn.com" <tripsoverc...@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:58:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 9:58 am
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse
Make sure to also read the comments on the above article at this link.
Pretty intense:
http://mync.com/site/44620/Fayetteville, N.C.

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 More options Nov 20 2009, 2:34 pm
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From: Michael Snyder <msny...@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:34:00 -0800
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
> This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
> bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
so you blame ... the father?


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 More options Nov 20 2009, 2:44 pm
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From: "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:44:03 -0600
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

"Michael Snyder" <msny...@sonic.net> wrote in message

news:4b069ac8$0$1982$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
>> This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
>> bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

> Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
> so you blame ... the father?

I think people are blaming the father for returning her to the *source* of
the cigarette burns.

MaryL


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 More options Nov 20 2009, 4:55 pm
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From: Michael Snyder <msny...@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:55:47 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

MaryL wrote:

> "Michael Snyder" <msny...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:4b069ac8$0$1982$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
>>> This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
>>> bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

>> Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
>> so you blame ... the father?

> I think people are blaming the father for returning her to the *source*
> of the cigarette burns.

No substitute for BLAMING the source of the cigarette burns.

It's like Andrea Yates all over again!   ;-)


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 More options Nov 20 2009, 7:37 pm
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From: "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:37:13 -0600
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

"Michael Snyder" <msny...@sonic.net> wrote in message

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This "mother" is absolutely disgusting...a true monster.  But it is also
hard to comprehend why this little girl's father would have sent her back
into that environment (although his blame is far less than the mother's
monstrous acts).  I certainly don't think he had any way of knowing that
Shaniya would be killed and probably did not realize that the mother would
prostitute her own child, but it should have been obvious that she would not
be going into a good situation.

MaryL


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 More options Nov 20 2009, 10:52 pm
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From: Sweet Sue <sueag...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:52:40 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse
On Nov 20, 7:44 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
wrote:

> "Michael Snyder" <msny...@sonic.net> wrote in message

> news:4b069ac8$0$1982$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...> tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
> >> This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
> >> bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

> > Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
> > so you blame ... the father?

> I think people are blaming the father for returning her to the *source* of
> the cigarette burns.

> MaryL

yeah, definitely read the comments on the link from the NC web
site.....sickening. Antoinette a coke whore and everyone knew it.
Daddy dearest stopped by for some action and VOILA....Shaniya is born.
and others cared for this child and warned daddy dearest to keep this
child away from the coke whore and the abusive grandma who looked
about 37 w/lotsa mileage on her..wonder if granny pimped out
Antoinette, too,  Trash, the entire bunch of them, except for the
relatives who warned daddy dearest and the aunt Carey. ..the rest ?
Human garbage and daddy is right on the top of the heap.
I say hang the POS Antoinette & monster McCoy from the tallest tree
and provide a web access.
Meanwhile, how many other coke whores with kiddies are there ? lots
and lots and lots.....

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 2:44 am
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From: "dejablues" <dejabl...@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:44:18 -0500
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 2:44 am
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

"MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message

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The father gives off very fishy vibes. He did not have her best interests in
mind letting her go with her crack whore egg donor. Poor Shaniya was screwed
from the get-go.

I certainly don't think he had any way of knowing that


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 3:58 am
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:58:05 GMT
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 3:58 am
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

<tripsoverc...@msn.com> wrote in message

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> Make sure to also read the comments on the above article at this link.
> Pretty intense:
> http://mync.com/site/44620/Fayetteville, N.C.

Whoa. Man oh man. Wish I could see the news reports some of these people
have seen, the inside of the mother's trailer eg. One of the posters at this
link says it's obvious no one who ever saw the inside of the place would
have allowed that child to go there. The two men interviewed are certainly
angry with the father - and his friends - for his negligence and general
indifference to all his children, and especially toward Shaniya. She was
truly a child no one cared about. Why on earth wouldn't they all give her up
for adoption? She'd have been so valued by people who loved her then.

jc


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 4:55 am
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From: "tripsoverc...@msn.com" <tripsoverc...@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:55:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 4:55 am
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse
On Nov 20, 7:34 am, Michael Snyder <msny...@sonic.net> wrote:

> tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
> > This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
> > bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

> Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
> so you blame ... the father?

It's a little hard to hide cigarette burns. Returning a child to a
household where this sort of abuse takes place is incomprehensible and
does make the person that does this responsible if future abuse
happens as they have prior knowledge. This is not rocket science.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 6:01 am
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:01:18 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 6:01 am
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

"tripsoverc...@msn.com" wrote:

> On Nov 20, 7:34 am, Michael Snyder <msny...@sonic.net> wrote:
> > tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
> > > This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
> > > bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.

> > Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
> > so you blame ... the father?

> It's a little hard to hide cigarette burns. Returning a child to a
> household where this sort of abuse takes place is incomprehensible and
> does make the person that does this responsible if future abuse
> happens as they have prior knowledge. This is not rocket science.

The father's behavior is incomprehensible to me. I think there's more to
it than has been publicized. Certainly there were other people very
anxious to take over the care of the little girl. She wasn't lucky with
either of her birth parents, poor little thing.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 6:38 am
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:38:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 6:38 am
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

> tripsoverc...@msn.com wrote:
> > This poor little girl. I am in complete agreement that the father
> > bears some responsibility for the death of this sweet child.
Michael Snyder wrote:
> Let me get this straight -- the mother burned her with cigarettes,
> so you blame ... the father?

The death penalty is too good for a mother who does something like
this to her own child (or any child). Apparently the father was told
by friends/family members that the child had come home from visits to
her mother with cigarette burns, or at the very least that it was a
very unwholesome and dangerous environment. And yet he not only let
her go back to visit, he let the child go *live* with the mother. So
yes, he is partly responsible morally, if not legally IMHO. The
ability to successfully gestate a fetus shouldn't be the primary
motivating factor in deciding where a child gets to live, and it
sounds like there were far better caregivers for this child in the
father's own family.

Marianna


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 3:14 pm
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From: Sweet Sue <sueag...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:14:52 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse
(snip)

> The father's behavior is incomprehensible to me. I think there's more to
> it than has been publicized. Certainly there were other people very
> anxious to take over the care of the little girl. She wasn't lucky with
> either of her birth parents, poor little thing.

> Peach
> --

question: what kind of irresponsible self-absorbed moron allows their
child to spend time in the home of another without doing an inspection
of the living conditions ?
answer: one who doesn't want to be bothered and doesn't care.

This " dad " gives me the chills. What does he do for a living, anyone
know ?


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 5:47 pm
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:47:54 -0800
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Subject: Re: Shaniya Davis: Some blame "father" for her death- knew of ongoing abuse

I believe I read that he's some kind of contractor who spends a lot of
time away from home, and out of state, pursuing work. So his sister was
really the primary caretaker of Shaniya. There is probably a backround
with the custody issue, since it had never been settled, what I don't know.

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