"God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
"God is a universal force that loves you."
"God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
"God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
-- "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
[Buddha]
On Nov 6, 12:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you start with a definition like:
> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> "God is a universal force that loves you."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
I agree one hundred percent, if we need a definition of God, that is.
I like another one "everything exists in potentiality".
imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> "God is a universal force that loves you."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> --
> "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> [Buddha]
On Nov 6, 6:13 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
I was just listening to the guy on the Christian radio station telling
his listeners that if they talk to God then God will talk to them.
Christians claim they speak with God on a regular basis. You spend a
lot of time being completely wrong.
And I see no difference between people claiming that "God" talks to
them and your claims that you have experienced "spirits." I don't see
that your fantasies are so superior to theirs that they belong in a
padded room and you don't.
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you start with a definition like:
> > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > --
> > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > [Buddha]
> imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you start with a definition like:
> > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree
> with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> attribute.
> > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> to do."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in
> it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses
> to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith
> alone."
> > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > --
> > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > [Buddha]
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> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, showmethehoney
> <alenasha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree
> > with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> > attribute.
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> > to do."
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> > to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in
> > it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses
> > to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith
> > alone."
> > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > --
> > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > > [Buddha]
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yes neil....xtians talk to god all the time...its called 'prayer'. and
yes neil, you also hear people say that 'god' told them to do it? you
hear it all the time on CNN when someone has just committed a bunch of
murders or when a TV evangelist is bullshitting his audience.
ummm....to repeat (again) ... i have never claimed my experiences
(fantasies to you) to be superior to anything have i? if so, please
point it out or not... you just say whatever seems to be echoing in
your cranium, so it has no relation to how i feel. but feel free to
state your misguided opinions as they are just like water off a ducks
back, although i suppose they somehow make you feel better ;-)
On Nov 6, 11:15 am, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 6:13 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> I was just listening to the guy on the Christian radio station telling
> his listeners that if they talk to God then God will talk to them.
> Christians claim they speak with God on a regular basis. You spend a
> lot of time being completely wrong.
> And I see no difference between people claiming that "God" talks to
> them and your claims that you have experienced "spirits." I don't see
> that your fantasies are so superior to theirs that they belong in a
> padded room and you don't.
> > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > --
> > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > > [Buddha]
On Nov 6, 10:22 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> yes neil....xtians talk to god all the time...its called 'prayer'. and
> yes neil, you also hear people say that 'god' told them to do it? you
> hear it all the time on CNN when someone has just committed a bunch of
> murders or when a TV evangelist is bullshitting his audience.
> ummm....to repeat (again) ... i have never claimed my experiences
> (fantasies to you) to be superior to anything have i?
When you lecture me about how I should give up reason so that I can
have the same experiences (etc), then yes.
> if so, please
> point it out or not...
I did, many times. I just did it again.
> you just say whatever seems to be echoing in
> your cranium, so it has no relation to how i feel. but feel free to
> state your misguided opinions
It's fairly narcissistic to presume to give someone permission to talk
in an internet newsgroup when you aren't a moderator.
> as they are just like water off a ducks
> back,
There's another claim I don't believe.
> although i suppose they somehow make you feel better ;-)
I'm happy to have a rational explanation for your wild claims, yes.
> On Nov 6, 11:15 am, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 6:13 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> > I was just listening to the guy on the Christian radio station telling
> > his listeners that if they talk to God then God will talk to them.
> > Christians claim they speak with God on a regular basis. You spend a
> > lot of time being completely wrong.
> > And I see no difference between people claiming that "God" talks to
> > them and your claims that you have experienced "spirits." I don't see
> > that your fantasies are so superior to theirs that they belong in a
> > padded room and you don't.
> > > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> > > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > > --
> > > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > > > [Buddha]
Neil the things that I have studied was in beded in my hear mind and
soul...As with you--Dawin-
Eistein-
The Universeral Parllell of the Universe--You give thanks
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 8:28 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > God said this ---you do not know my thoughts and you do not know my ways
> Which is more proof that people think they speak with God.
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, showmethehoney
> > <alenasha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> > > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even
> disagree
> > > with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> > > attribute.
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants
> you
> > > to do."
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants
> you
> > > to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't
> believe in
> > > it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and
> refuses
> > > to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through
> faith
> > > alone."
> > > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > > --
> > > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > > > [Buddha]
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On Nov 6, 5:07 pm, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Neil the things that I have studied was in beded in my hear mind and
> soul...As with you--Dawin-
> Eistein-
> The Universeral Parllell of the Universe--You give thanks
Just because you studied something doesn't meant that what you studied
is true.
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Neil Kelsey <neil_kel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 8:28 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > God said this ---you do not know my thoughts and you do not know my ways
> > Which is more proof that people think they speak with God.
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, showmethehoney
> > > <alenasha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > > > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > > > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > > > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> > > > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even
> > disagree
> > > > with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> > > > attribute.
> > > > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants
> > you
> > > > to do."
> > > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants
> > you
> > > > to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't
> > believe in
> > > > it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and
> > refuses
> > > > to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through
> > faith
> > > > alone."
> > > > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > > > --
> > > > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
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> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> "God is a universal force that loves you."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> --
> "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> [Buddha]
> Try again?
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you start with a definition like:
>> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
>> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
>> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
>> "God is a universal force that loves you."
>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
>> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
>> --
>> "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
>> [Buddha]
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[Voltaire]
God's Particle--this is intresting --If it can create mini-black holes-- so
if God's Particle create's a small black hole--could it not be used to suck
up say like space storms- astroids and any thing like this that would be a
threat to the earth--why could we not use this---?
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM, JFG <thelemiccatho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> God is not a force.
> Try again?
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you start with a definition like:
> > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree
> with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> attribute.
> > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> to do."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in
> it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses
> to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith
> alone."
> > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > --
> > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > [Buddha]
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> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, showmethehoney
> <alenasha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree
> > with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> > attribute.
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> > to do."
> > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> > to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in
> > it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses
> > to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith
> > alone."
> > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > --
> > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 8:28 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > God said this ---you do not know my thoughts and you do not know my ways
> Observer
> Poor Doris !
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, showmethehoney
> > <alenasha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
> > > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
> > > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
> > > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > If you start with a definition like:
> > > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even
> disagree
> > > with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> > > attribute.
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants
> you
> > > to do."
> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants
> you
> > > to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't
> believe in
> > > it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and
> refuses
> > > to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through
> faith
> > > alone."
> > > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > > > --
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Explain about Poor Doris
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Observer <mayors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 6, 8:28 am, Doris Ragland <dr4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > God said this ---you do not know my thoughts and you do not know my ways
>> Observer
>> Poor Doris !
>> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:13 AM, showmethehoney
>> > <alenasha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>> > > imo anybody who tries to define 'god' is speculating, stating their
>> > > personal opinion or just repeating what they have been taught. most
>> > > people who state that 'god' is talking to them live in a padded room.
>> > > On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > If you start with a definition like:
>> > > > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
>> > > > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even
>> disagree
>> > > with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
>> > > > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
>> > > attribute.
>> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you."
>> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it
>> wants you
>> > > to do."
>> > > > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it
>> wants you
>> > > to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't
>> believe in
>> > > it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and
>> refuses
>> > > to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through
>> faith
>> > > alone."
>> > > > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
>> > > > --
>> > > > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
>> > > > [Buddha]
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM, JFG <thelemiccatho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> God is not a force.
> Try again?
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you start with a definition like:
> > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree
> with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each
> attribute.
> > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> to do."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you
> to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in
> it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses
> to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith
> alone."
> > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > --
> > "The mind is everything. What you think you become."
> > [Buddha]
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On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you start with a definition like:
> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> "God is a universal force that loves you."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
Or, better yet, one can see through such an example that the objective
nature of reality is not simply humanistic convention or
definition. :)
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you start with a definition like:
>> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
>> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
>> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
>> "God is a universal force that loves you."
>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
>> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
[Brock]
> Or, better yet, one can see through such an example that the objective
> nature of reality is not simply humanistic convention or
> definition. :)
Sorry, when you enter your brain-dead Zombies-for-Christ mode there is no point in replying. Save yourself some typing in the future.
-- "The will to win, the desire to succeed, the urge to reach your full potential...
these are the keys that will unlock the door to personal excellence."
[Confucius]
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If you start with a definition like:
>>> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
>>> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
>>> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
>>> "God is a universal force that loves you."
>>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
>>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
>>> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> [Brock]
>> Or, better yet, one can see through such an example that the objective
>> nature of reality is not simply humanistic convention or
>> definition. :)
> Sorry, when you enter your brain-dead Zombies-for-Christ mode
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> If you start with a definition like:
> >>> "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> >>> ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> >>> Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> >>> "God is a universal force that loves you."
> >>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> >>> "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> >>> Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> > [Brock]
> >> Or, better yet, one can see through such an example that the objective
> >> nature of reality is not simply humanistic convention or
> >> definition. :)
> > Sorry, when you enter your brain-dead Zombies-for-Christ mode
> No zombie I.
Oh but indeed you are !
A believer in sadomasochist ,fetishistic magic , necromancy , demons,
ghosts angels and the rest of the hideous anal excretions of
uneducated , misanthropic , zombie minds, like your self.
Yes indeed you are a zombie ! We have all come to pity you and your
pathetic condition.
It is a shame that you can not be forced to undergo psychiatric
evaluation and intensive treatment .
> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you start with a definition like:
> > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
> > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
> > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
> > "God is a universal force that loves you."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
> > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
> Or, better yet, one can see through such an example that the objective
> nature of reality is not simply humanistic convention or
> definition. :)
The example is Biblical.
Thank you for admitting that the Bible is merely humanistic
convention.
> On Nov 16, 6:24 pm, Brock <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 9:35 pm, Simon Ewins <sjew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > If you start with a definition like:
>> > "God is a universal force about which nothing is known." ...
>> > ... you have something that is impossible to argue with or even disagree with (rather like the Higgs boson or 'God' particle).
>> > Once you start adding things to it you make it less likely with each attribute.
>> > "God is a universal force that loves you."
>> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do."
>> > "God is a universal force that loves you and has things that it wants you to do and created everything we see and punishes those who don't believe in it and rewards those that believe in it and talks to some people and refuses to talk to others and defies and proof but thrives on believe through faith alone."
>> > Maybe it should be left as completely unknown.
>> Or, better yet, one can see through such an example that the objective
>> nature of reality is not simply humanistic convention or
>> definition. :)
> The example is Biblical.
I'm pretty sure the text cited is not from the Bible, but was written by Simon:
> Thank you for admitting that the Bible is merely humanistic
> convention.
More clearly, I'm just noting that humanistic evaluations are not
adaquate to objectively measure the validity of any competing
epistemological claims.
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