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  <title type="text">Atheism vs Christianity Google Group</title>
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  Welcome to Atheism vs Christianity. A site for continuous, lively and engaging debate between atheists and theists. All religions are invited to take on the challenges offered by atheists to your beliefs.
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  <updated>2009-11-21T12:40:55Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Simon Ewins</name>
  <email>sjew...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T12:40:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/e009b9af14e4b0f9/4366c0b02b958e16?show_docid=4366c0b02b958e16</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/e009b9af14e4b0f9/4366c0b02b958e16?show_docid=4366c0b02b958e16"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Resurrection Issue</title>
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  Was he a doctor? &lt;br&gt; What procedures did he use to determine that Jesus was dead? &lt;br&gt; Do we have an affidavit from this soldier? &lt;br&gt; Was this soldier above bribery? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Virtual Gods: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://users3.jabry.com/sjewins/library/__philorelig.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Teach this triple truth to all: A generous heart, kind speech, and a life of service and compassion are the things which renew humanity.&amp;quot;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com</name>
  <email>ranjit_math...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T12:26:27Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/9f3978c5852a28e0/b0660b9addd269bb?show_docid=b0660b9addd269bb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/9f3978c5852a28e0/b0660b9addd269bb?show_docid=b0660b9addd269bb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Are their any evolutionary scientist out there that believe in God</title>
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  If you knew any Christian who considered the God of Genesis a false &lt;br&gt; god, would you consider him intelligent or weak minded?
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dead Kennedy</name>
  <email>dead.kenn...@live.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T12:16:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7f3cadaea77d0332/2e1707132e3dc6ea?show_docid=2e1707132e3dc6ea</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/7f3cadaea77d0332/2e1707132e3dc6ea?show_docid=2e1707132e3dc6ea"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Evolution witnessed</title>
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  excellent example of the argument from, &amp;quot;i can pick my nose for 1 &lt;br&gt; second but cant pick my nose for 10 seconds&amp;quot;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Drafterman</name>
  <email>drafter...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T11:55:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/6a89dd4c80635bf9/7308528e13c77b30?show_docid=7308528e13c77b30</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/6a89dd4c80635bf9/7308528e13c77b30?show_docid=7308528e13c77b30"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Fine tuning and Free Will</title>
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  If God chose to make my son specifically, and the creation of my son &lt;br&gt; required a precise set of variables, some of which were ostensibly my &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;decisions&amp;quot;, then God made those choices, not me.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Drafterman</name>
  <email>drafter...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T11:53:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/6a89dd4c80635bf9/c5376c1adf3dfaff?show_docid=c5376c1adf3dfaff</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/6a89dd4c80635bf9/c5376c1adf3dfaff?show_docid=c5376c1adf3dfaff"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Fine tuning and Free Will</title>
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  Not sure. Why is this relevant?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>chazwin</name>
  <email>chazwy...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T10:58:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/985b5a9d91d4cc1c/3d675b0d62e3e3c3?show_docid=3d675b0d62e3e3c3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/985b5a9d91d4cc1c/3d675b0d62e3e3c3?show_docid=3d675b0d62e3e3c3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Determinism &amp; Free Will</title>
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  If you consider all the automatic reactions upon which we have no &lt;br&gt; control that is the best way to describe insect behaviour. &lt;br&gt; You are not normally aware of breathing, and yet you breath all the &lt;br&gt; time, heart beat etc.. &lt;br&gt; You do not command your hunger. Then there are a range of other &lt;br&gt; responses such as ducking, flinching, knee jerk, fear of heights,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>JFG</name>
  <email>thelemiccatho...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T09:43:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/6a89dd4c80635bf9/e3f0ed46ebdd89d1?show_docid=e3f0ed46ebdd89d1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/6a89dd4c80635bf9/e3f0ed46ebdd89d1?show_docid=e3f0ed46ebdd89d1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Fine tuning and Free Will</title>
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  Recall: Why couldn&#39;t an omnipotent God work our free will decisions &lt;br&gt; into His plan? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;How do you say that such a plan dictates? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;God is omniscient; thus He knows everything, including the future free- &lt;br&gt; will decisions of created beings. That doesn&#39;t make them un-free. &lt;br&gt; When He creates a creature such as an angel or a human, He knows
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>chazwin</name>
  <email>chazwy...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T09:41:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/380c35a42481098d/b161a72056f9ac2b?show_docid=b161a72056f9ac2b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/380c35a42481098d/b161a72056f9ac2b?show_docid=b161a72056f9ac2b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Definition of a soul</title>
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  Gee Golly whiz - Oil member thayut. thank fer thayt. &lt;br&gt; hic
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>chazwin</name>
  <email>chazwy...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T09:28:56Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/0f96de32935f147d/93fd59c6fb68fde8?show_docid=93fd59c6fb68fde8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/0f96de32935f147d/93fd59c6fb68fde8?show_docid=93fd59c6fb68fde8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: What a price to pay for Jesus.</title>
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  If you were half as clever as you think you would be twice as clever &lt;br&gt; as you deserve.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>STB</name>
  <email>savingthefut...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T00:10:48Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/380c35a42481098d/3f111972be618ea8?show_docid=3f111972be618ea8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/380c35a42481098d/3f111972be618ea8?show_docid=3f111972be618ea8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Definition of a soul</title>
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  REMEMBER that only Jesus and God tell the truth and all others you are &lt;br&gt; warned are nothing but students and many do poorly as given in example &lt;br&gt; of the 12 themselves that make many mistakes and false conclusions &lt;br&gt; that Jesus had to deal with...so to go to others in the scriptures is &lt;br&gt; as dumb as to copy off the sheet of another that does not know any
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>philosophy</name>
  <email>smwil...@tpg.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T08:16:36Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a2a57cf4017e2731/8a01f08671dea841?show_docid=8a01f08671dea841</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a2a57cf4017e2731/8a01f08671dea841?show_docid=8a01f08671dea841"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Instead of being born again</title>
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  Ah-huh - another good one.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>philosophy</name>
  <email>smwil...@tpg.com.au</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T08:15:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/e72b8bf306928ee9/6089552a6d75f5ea?show_docid=6089552a6d75f5ea</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/e72b8bf306928ee9/6089552a6d75f5ea?show_docid=6089552a6d75f5ea"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I AM</title>
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  That&#39;s a huge number. Have they got names for them all? &lt;br&gt; Actually, on reflection, I am probably wrong, considering the &lt;br&gt; number of people in the population. &lt;br&gt; Talk about exclusivity - wow!. &lt;br&gt; Why do these people have to claim that? &lt;br&gt; Are there lives so bloody awful?
  </summary>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Lawrey</name>
  <email>lawrenc...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T07:13:38Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/e72b8bf306928ee9/b3d70cf6d954c76a?show_docid=b3d70cf6d954c76a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/e72b8bf306928ee9/b3d70cf6d954c76a?show_docid=b3d70cf6d954c76a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I AM</title>
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  philosophy, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Not unlike the 144,000 the J Ws think are anointed ones, &lt;br&gt; who will judge the rest in the last days. ;)
  </summary>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Observer</name>
  <email>mayors...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T07:12:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/380c35a42481098d/538f46455a1fc1ae?show_docid=538f46455a1fc1ae</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/380c35a42481098d/538f46455a1fc1ae?show_docid=538f46455a1fc1ae"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Definition of a soul</title>
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  Observer &lt;br&gt; Try thinking it out more clearly. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Every model of reality existing in our minds by which we attempt deal &lt;br&gt; with the world around us is the product of personal fictions. These &lt;br&gt; constitute only approximations and not the actual stuff of &lt;br&gt; reality . &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt; No matter how closely these approximations resemble what is out there
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Lawrey</name>
  <email>lawrenc...@btinternet.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-21T07:08:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a51768ff39313a5f/51bb31ba4c078236?show_docid=51bb31ba4c078236</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/a51768ff39313a5f/51bb31ba4c078236?show_docid=51bb31ba4c078236"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Calling &quot;myth&quot; to account</title>
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  Gregkaye, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;One definition of myth is: a fictitious or imaginary person, and, or &lt;br&gt; thing. and godthings are the stuff of myths handed down and &lt;br&gt; promoted by religion. What is the problem? A myth is a myth, &lt;br&gt; is a myth, and we all know that it is part and parcel of &lt;br&gt; mythological, paganistic story-line. In short, the result of the
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