misc.consumers.frugal-living Google Group

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

thismailautodele...@comcast.net (Vic Smith) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:09:43 UT

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:03:39 -0500, clams_casino
Sure. All hondaheads say pretty much the same.
That's saves me a lot of money.
--Vic

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

rekc...@hotmail.com (William Tucker) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:57:44 UT

So, you are married to the brand. A lot of people are, that is why the
prices stay high.
I find that anyone that knows anything about the workings of a car can
usually judge whether a used car is a clunker or not. For the rest of them
a check over by a competent mechanic is always good.
That's just the way places like Hertz, Enterprise, Budget and large

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

george...@toast.net (VFW) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:50:10 UT

In article <aMDNm.36484$Wd1.6...@newsfe15 .iad>,
Probably, the best way , certainly the easiest , is to buy an "09 now,
that the ;10's are out. and have no trade-in. you could easily get that
amount off the price. sell your car privately . Dealers give you
nothing for it. they don't want your trade-in.

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

petergrif...@drunkinclam.com (clams_casino) — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:03:39 UT

Depends on the car. Then again, I'd be very suprised to find any $30k
car selling for $10k with 10k miles after one year or even two years.
Can you suggest a model that would meet that qualification?
There are GM, Ford & Chrysler models, for example, that I'd never pay
$10k for no matter what the mileage. On the other hand, I'm sold on

Re: National Broadband Plan

rick0.merr...@gmail.spamless.com (Rick Merrill) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:43:54 UT

I believe the article on National Broadband Plan misstates the FCC
goals. They want the Broadband companies to make internet accessible TO
EVERYBODY either by wires (cable) or over the air (WIFI).
In other words, the long term goal is to make the internet like the
telephone: not only universally accessible, but eventually to become a

Re: National Broadband Plan

bigdog...@gmail.com (BigDog1) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:39:24 UT

That's regrettable, but irrelevant. Your original post said you read
a WSJ article that was "about the FCC trying to force
people onto broadband by a new law."
That's just not true. You either misunderstood what you read, or the
writer had no idea what he was talking about. With the low regard I
have for the news media, I'd be more inclined to believe the latter

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

anniewough...@hotmail.com (Annie Woughman) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:08:14 UT

I don't know how many miles we will get out of them. They are all still
running fine. When we bought them they had approx 10,000 miles on them.
Hubby has typically turned each car over to one of the kids when it hit
160,000 miles. We are talking a 99, an 02, 03 and an 05. The 99 has at
least 200,000, I'm not sure about the rest but they are driven every day on

Re: National Broadband Plan

lajo...@gmi.net (Artys) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:53:44 UT

Hello everybody,
You must not have much unemployment in your area. We do. People
are afraid they will be out of their houses and apartments, and that
is why they do not try to get internet access where they live. Food
is important to most people.

Re: Cookware

frater...@nowhere.invalid (frater mus) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:07:28 UT

I think it was clear enough, although I might disagree with the point.
One has to treat teflon (or calphalon, or those hideous induction
stovetops, or nice knives) specially to avoid damaging them but this is
a consumer education issue and a personal choice.
Same with exotic sports cars; you can't drive them 30mph over

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

petergrif...@drunkinclam.com (clams_casino) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:22:20 UT

This has been disproven many times. It really depends on one's typical
mileage. For low mileage drivers and those who value their time making
repairs at zero, buying used makes much sense. For high mileage
drivers, new can make sense. The costs of buying a used car every few
years soon offsets a single car purchase, especially considering new

Re: National Broadband Plan

bigdog...@gmail.com (BigDog1) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:14:10 UT

No, not really. I was referring to new equipment and should have been
more specific. I take your point though. But, used is a problem for
me. In my state used merchandise is sold, by law, "as is, where is."
What you see is what you get. Great deals can certainly be had, but
let's face it; anyone who in 2009 is just buying their first computer

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

tmcl...@searchmachine.com (h) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:07:08 UT

I always buy a small Subaru that's at least 10 years old. I paid $5k for my
last one 3 years ago. I only drive about 3k miles a year, so they last about
10 years. I don't expect this one to die for at least 7 years.

Re: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.

anniewough...@hotmail.com (Annie Woughman) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:50:43 UT

No, I was just sharing what I heard a guy tell the clerk. I was standing
behind him in the check-out line. I'm sorry if I passed on erroneous
information.

Re: Please do not buy a new car.

anniewough...@hotmail.com (Annie Woughman) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:46:33 UT

Actually the subject line is a good one. Buying a NEW car is never frugal.
The minute you drive it off the lot it depreciates by thousands of dollars.
We always buy am American made mid-sized sedan that is a rental return or a
fleet car. These cars usually only have about 11,000 miles on them are in

Re: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.

atlas-bug...@invalid.invalid (Malcom Mal Reynolds) — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:23:28 UT

In article
<UprNm.32235$Zu5.27...@newsfe2 4.iad>,
"Annie Woughman"
Can you provide some sort of link about
this "luxury tax"?