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rpitpyouuertnrgutr...@hotmail.com (Bushite Nazi Grunts Deserve to Die) — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:33:49 UT

The tyranny of censorship is what stops
our free words that speak for Justice
securing our dying freedoms. Send this
as your concern also why don't you
fight back to defend?
ArmyTimes "At least one in six service members is on some form of
psychiatric drug."
Typical Nazi grunt behaviour. Why? There is

Re: Implications of the Langston Field...

tkoe...@netcologne.de (Thomas Koenig) — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:29:12 UT

The Navier-Stokes equations can be written explicitly in four lines,
or in vector notation in two lines, and solving these is definitely
NOT trivial.

Re: Global warming...

valen...@gmail.com (Damien Valentine) — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:17:54 UT

I'm not sure what you want us to help you with. It sounds like you
already have a setting by authorial fiat ("assume the sea rises 10
meters over the next century"). And it sounds like you have a plot
that doesn't require too much detailed knowledge of said setting
(focusing on the human aspects of politics and romance, instead of the

Re: Perceptions of increments of time.

jym...@dialup4less.com (Jyme) — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:37:44 UT

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:13:41 -0700 (PDT), "n...@bid.nes"
I don't need anything nearly so complex.
My Base8sz is different from the scenario which started this thread
(human with Base8 timekeeping).
For this, I'm positing a race with a mental configuration different
from humans. They are poor at rote memorization but very good at

Re: Fate of soda-lime glass

carey...@gmail.com (careysub@gmail.com) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:57:30 UT

On Mar 19, 10:06 am, Crown-Horned Snorkack <chornedsnork...@hush.ai>
wrote:
No it isn't, but it inspired the invention of iridescent glazes in the
art nouveau movement.
(I also have experience in digging up ancient iridescent glass, in my
case in Israel.)
There are quite a number of metals found in ancient glass, some added

Re: Nova and Saturn V...

reply1...@merlyn.demon.co.uk (Dr J R Stockton) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:19:31 UT

In rec.arts.sf.science message <0e0b8121-0db4-4d9b-b0db-5357d c92e034@g26
g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:06:56, Johnny1a
<shermanl...@hotmail.com> posted:
Wikipedia knows about it : <[link])>;
also <[link]>.

Re: Perceptions of increments of time.

thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:06:01 UT

"More than one possible logical structure" is a peculiar notion, since
either it's trivial (ie, you redfined the terms so that "octagon" has
six sides, or the geometric axioms are different, or some combination)
or the situation is self-contradictory (ie, not just contrary to common
expectations, but *self* contradictory). If it's just a vocabulary

Re: Perceptions of increments of time.

alien8...@gmail.com (nuny@bid.nes) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:41:33 UT

I agree, in conventional terms, but this is the Discworld we're
talking about. I vaguely recall (and my Google-Fu is weak today or I'd
cite it) Pratchett including in a footnote an "explanation" involving
the way the Discverse was created and *signed*.
Sounds exactly like magic to me. ;>)
Mark L. Fergerson

Re: Global warming...

frecksem...@yahoo.com (Solidwind) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:12:48 UT

How might a futurist science-fiction writer handle global warming?
Let's imagine that the year is 2100 and the oceans have risen by 10
meters.
In 2010 the models are weakly explaining the global warming; it is in
fact inexplicably warming up to fast. the arctic and antarctic are
melting and the rise in the ocean level are well under way. The models

Re: Fate of soda-lime glass

erkyr...@eblong.com (Andrew Plotkin) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:28:38 UT

In archaelogical time, bottles don't have contents. Plastic caps will
get brittle and fall apart, metal caps will oxidize and fall apart.
(Okay, somebody will now find an example of an Egyptian soda water
bottle which was discovered in drinkable condition and with the
"5 obols for recycling" hieroglyphs still intact. But *in general*,

Re: Fate of soda-lime glass

chornedsnork...@hush.ai (Crown-Horned Snorkack) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:06:14 UT

Which components of glass oxidize? Iron oxides?
Thus a bottle with aqueous contents would hydrate from inside, while
outer surface would stay intact - right?

Re: Fate of soda-lime glass

carey...@gmail.com (Carey) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:32:19 UT

Roman glass doesn't often (ever?) crystallize, but it does decompose in
moist environments. Modern glass is probably more stable chemically
since it has better quality control, although obviously long term
stability is not a criterion of bottle makers.
You might consider for comparison the Portland Vase, a 2000 year old

Re: Jettison the warp core!

go...@gossg.org (Greg Goss) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:32:46 UT

The series has had enough cases of ramming at impulse speeds
(portrayed as docking speeds), or controlled flight into terrain
landings, though.

Re: Jettison the warp core!

andrew-mcdow...@o2.co.uk (mcdowella) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:14:28 UT

(first my post trimmed)
Reusing that phrase was a really bad idea. I was thinking of collision
with some sort of rarified cloud that would present mostly a radiation
hazard, in which case the so-called crumple zone would be, hopefully,
absorbing the brunt of the radiation. I should have talked about the

Re: Nova and Saturn V...

fairwa...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons) — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:46:07 UT

Not that I have ever heard.
Von Braun in fact originally was a strong supporter of EOR, not direct
ascent, which meant smaller boosters in general. (He was a huge
proponent of on-orbit assembly.)
I suspect, like so much space 'history' (especially the early years)
it's so much garbled urban myth. Many popular works have made a great