> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast > side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly > intelligible. I did not.
: Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> : Oometimes however, the show/movie is from a part of the world where : the variant of English is so far from your own that you need subtitles : or you'll won't understand a thing.
There was once a Nova episode (I think it was) that interviewed in detail several (I seem to recall, seven) families from various places in the US. The folks from rural Georgia had subtitles. And needed them.
And then of course there's "Airplane". But that's a mild case, compared to the Nova mentioned above.
thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) writes: >: Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> >: Oometimes however, the show/movie is from a part of the world where >: the variant of English is so far from your own that you need subtitles >: or you'll won't understand a thing. >There was once a Nova episode (I think it was) that interviewed in >detail several (I seem to recall, seven) families from various places >in the US. The folks from rural Georgia had subtitles. And needed them. >And then of course there's "Airplane". But that's a mild >case, compared to the Nova mentioned above. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RrJih_2PKM
I liked on _Danger Mouse_ when they had the alien J J Quark on, and he talked in a mild Scottish brogue, and Danger Mouse and Penfold agreed that he was speaking some incomprehensibly alien tongue.
And then he yelled at his robot Grovel.
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:44:15 GMT, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
>: Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> >: Oometimes however, the show/movie is from a part of the world where >: the variant of English is so far from your own that you need subtitles >: or you'll won't understand a thing.
>There was once a Nova episode (I think it was) that interviewed in >detail several (I seem to recall, seven) families from various places >in the US. The folks from rural Georgia had subtitles. And needed them.
I once called someone in Louisiana to complain about not getting merchandise I'd paid for. I'm about 80% sure the person on the phone thought she was speaking English, but I couldn't understand a thing she said.
And then there was the time my toddler-aged daughter was put in daycare with a woman from way back in the Kentucky hills. My wife and I are from New England, and even after six years in Kentucky we hadn't picked up the local accent, let alone the backwoods hill country version, and our daughter learned English from us. We thought she spoke pretty well for a two-year-old, but when I picked my daughter up at the end of a miserable day, the woman wanted to know whether our kid was speaking some other language or was just retarded -- apparently neither of them could make out anything the other said.
thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote: >: Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> >: Oometimes however, the show/movie is from a part of the world where >: the variant of English is so far from your own that you need subtitles >: or you'll won't understand a thing.
>There was once a Nova episode (I think it was) that interviewed in >detail several (I seem to recall, seven) families from various places >in the US. The folks from rural Georgia had subtitles. And needed them.
Just because you city folks aren't used to how folks from the country speak...
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:44:15 GMT, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) > wrote:
> >: Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> > >: Oometimes however, the show/movie is from a part of the world where > >: the variant of English is so far from your own that you need subtitles > >: or you'll won't understand a thing.
> >There was once a Nova episode (I think it was) that interviewed in > >detail several (I seem to recall, seven) families from various places > >in the US. The folks from rural Georgia had subtitles. And needed them.
> I once called someone in Louisiana to complain about not getting > merchandise I'd paid for. I'm about 80% sure the person on the phone > thought she was speaking English, but I couldn't understand a thing > she said.
> And then there was the time my toddler-aged daughter was put in > daycare with a woman from way back in the Kentucky hills. My wife and > I are from New England, and even after six years in Kentucky we hadn't > picked up the local accent, let alone the backwoods hill country > version, and our daughter learned English from us. We thought she > spoke pretty well for a two-year-old, but when I picked my daughter up > at the end of a miserable day, the woman wanted to know whether our > kid was speaking some other language or was just retarded -- > apparently neither of them could make out anything the other said.
This is partly why so many companies outsource their phone "help" lines to India. Apparently everybody in America nearly understands them the same.
In article <hcpv3b$s2...@news.eternal-september.org>, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> said:
> In live-CC'd shows, like sporting events, the captioner's > misunderstandings are often quite funny.
It hardly has to be live.
Do I need to mention (again) the "Star Trek: Enterprise" episode in which an alt-hist Nazi officer's cries of "Insurgents! Insurgents!" as his convoy was attacked were close-captioned as "In sergeants! In sergeants!"?
On 2009-11-03 23:40:57 -0800, wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) said:
> In article <hcpv3b$s2...@news.eternal-september.org>, > "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> said:
>> In live-CC'd shows, like sporting events, the captioner's >> misunderstandings are often quite funny.
> It hardly has to be live.
> Do I need to mention (again) the "Star Trek: Enterprise" episode in > which an alt-hist Nazi officer's cries of "Insurgents! Insurgents!" > as his convoy was attacked were close-captioned as "In sergeants! > In sergeants!"?
I saw COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER in Paris. Every time on of the characters said "Butcher Holler," the subtitles translated it as "Kentucky."
My favorite bit was when Loretta (Sissy Spacek) came back from riding around in a Jeep with future husband Doolittle Lynn (Tommy Lee Jones), only to be confronted by her angry father (Levon Helm).
Loretta says, "I was out ridin'," and Levon snarls, "Out ridin'?!" She plaintively says, "With Doo," and even angrier, he repeats, "With DOO?!"
Only in the subtitles, she tells him she was out riding, and when he objects to this, she clarifies: In a car!" Angrily he retorts, "In a CAR?!"
Well, yes, mister coal miner, sir. One of those things with four wheels and an engine; you've heard tell of them? No, it's nt that your daughter's been swanning around with a man that you should be upset about, it that they were in a motorized conveyance...
Other than an booboo on Jurassic park which I think he fixed (he switched two characters), they look accurate to me. Note that they're referring to movies and not books.
Randall's Primer diagram is doubly funny because there's a semi-official diagram that is nearly as hard to follow. * -- * PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something like corkscrews.
nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous >charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in >poster form.
The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. * -- * PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something like corkscrews.
Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> writes: >_The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >intelligible. I did not.
By the end of the series you did. Loved it. * -- * PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something like corkscrews.
pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote: >nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous >>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in >>poster form.
>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a >link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
>> nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >>> But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his >>> previous charts and diagrams have become references, and are now >>> available in poster form.
>> The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still >> have a link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
In message <mKednR40TK7hdmzXnZ2dnUVZ_qVi4...@supernews.com>, PV <pv+use...@pobox.com> writes
>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous >>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in >>poster form.
>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a >link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
<http://www.isi.edu/ant/address/> is a more detailed map inspired by and based on that. The site has an zoomable map which resolves down to individual ipv4 addresses using the same Hilbert curve based layout.
"n...@bid.nes" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 3, 8:58 pm, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:44:15 GMT, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) > > wrote:
> > >: Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> > > >: Oometimes however, the show/movie is from a part of the world where > > >: the variant of English is so far from your own that you need subtitles > > >: or you'll won't understand a thing.
> > >There was once a Nova episode (I think it was) that interviewed in > > >detail several (I seem to recall, seven) families from various places > > >in the US. The folks from rural Georgia had subtitles. And needed them.
> > I once called someone in Louisiana to complain about not getting > > merchandise I'd paid for. I'm about 80% sure the person on the phone > > thought she was speaking English, but I couldn't understand a thing > > she said.
> > And then there was the time my toddler-aged daughter was put in > > daycare with a woman from way back in the Kentucky hills. My wife and > > I are from New England, and even after six years in Kentucky we hadn't > > picked up the local accent, let alone the backwoods hill country > > version, and our daughter learned English from us. We thought she > > spoke pretty well for a two-year-old, but when I picked my daughter up > > at the end of a miserable day, the woman wanted to know whether our > > kid was speaking some other language or was just retarded -- > > apparently neither of them could make out anything the other said.
> This is partly why so many companies outsource their phone "help" > lines to India. Apparently everybody in America nearly understands > them the same.
> Mark L. Fergerson
The same argument for equal temperament in music, "All keys equally out of tune."
-- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
fairwa...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons) writes: >>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a >>link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
Funny as hell, but it hasn't aged well in terms of accuracy. 195 is still more or less correct - we don't use up bogon space very quickly. * -- * PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something like corkscrews.
>>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >>>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous >>>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in >>>poster form.
>>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a >>link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
> >>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: > >>>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous > >>>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in > >>>poster form.
> >>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a > >>link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
>>>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >>>>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous >>>>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in >>>>poster form.
>>>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a >>>link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
> I can't find usenet on there; I thought there was an archipeligo or something.
It's in the lower southeast, a bit northeast from Wikipedia, northwest from IRC Isles, and southwest of the Sea of Memes. Though it's labelled on the map, it isn't clear that there's actually anything there -- which may well be intentional.... -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
> >>>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: > >>>>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous > >>>>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in > >>>>poster form.
> >>>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a > >>>link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
> > I can't find usenet on there; I thought there was an archipeligo or something.
> It's in the lower southeast, a bit northeast from Wikipedia, northwest > from IRC Isles, and southwest of the Sea of Memes. Though it's labelled > on the map, it isn't clear that there's actually anything there -- which > may well be intentional....
Doesn't the dotted outline on a map usually indicate ruins?
>> >>>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: >> >>>>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous >> >>>>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in >> >>>>poster form.
>> >>>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a >> >>>link to http://xkcd.com/195/ because it's so handy. *
>> > I can't find usenet on there; I thought there was an archipeligo or something.
>> It's in the lower southeast, a bit northeast from Wikipedia, northwest >> from IRC Isles, and southwest of the Sea of Memes. Though it's labelled >> on the map, it isn't clear that there's actually anything there -- which >> may well be intentional....
> Doesn't the dotted outline on a map usually indicate ruins?
I don't know -- it's not a symbol I remember seeing. Somebody else suggested it was a sunken island. These both strike me as reasonable interpretations... -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote:
> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast > side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly > intelligible. I did not.
The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find a connection between that and Baltimore.
> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote:
>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >> intelligible. I did not.
> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find > a connection between that and Baltimore.
Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>> intelligible. I did not.
>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >> a connection between that and Baltimore.
>Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
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