>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>> intelligible. I did not.
>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>> a connection between that and Baltimore.
>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
Anywhere but the AL East, they'd even make the playoffs now and then.
On Nov 6, 2:56 pm, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: > > _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast > > side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly > > intelligible. I did not. > The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find > a connection between that and Baltimore.
Perhaps dead Baal-Timur sleeps dreamlessly 200 miles south of the coast of Alaska... at least until the stars are right.
However, it is true that people living in, say, Washington State, might well find the speech of someone living in Baltimore more comprehensible than someone living in Denmark. After all, like residents of Seattle, people in Baltimore speak in English instead of Danish.
>>>On Nov 2, 1:02 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>On Nov 2, 9:32 am, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
>>>>>A noble effort. Of course, it's inaccurate ...
>>>>The main point, I take it, is to make a joke about the movie "Primer". >>>>The rest of the cartoon can be but a crude and inaccurate >>>>approximation without detracting from its function.
>>>I thought there might be some connection to the movie "Clerks" 2 which >>>has a big argument between LOTR fans and A Star Wars fan who claims >>>that the LOTR movies consist of nothing but a bunch of guys walking >>>around.
>>"Even the trees walk!" (A commonly-repeated statement in our household. >> Our friends -- a continuously decreasing group, now that I think of it
> So parts of them are constantly being ground off or dissolving, or > otherwise leaving the group? Or did you mean a steadily declining in > number group, because if it's continously decreasing, it can't be > losing quantum units one at a time...
Mike and Ruth were on the Atkins diet at one time. No abrasion, erosion, dissolution, etc. needed. -Eric
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On Nov 7, 8:56 am, Jesper Lauridsen <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote:
> > _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast > > side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly > > intelligible. I did not.
> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find > a connection between that and Baltimore.
It all comes down to perspective. Relative to me, in Australia, the NE side of the Pacific is the whole of North America. Where Baltimore is. Any further granularity is un-necessary.
Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" > <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>> intelligible. I did not. >>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
Or the Orioles.
-- Evelyn C. Leeper I don't need a friend who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better. -Plutarch
<elee...@optonline.net> wrote: >Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>Or the Orioles.
Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
> >> >>>nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) writes: > >> >>>>But that's not how the creater of xkcd works. Several of his previous > >> >>>>charts and diagrams have become references, and are now available in > >> >>>>poster form.
> >> >>>The powers of 10 height poster is especially brilliant. And I still have a > >> >>>link tohttp://xkcd.com/195/because it's so handy. *
> >> > I can't find usenet on there; I thought there was an archipeligo or something.
> >> It's in the lower southeast, a bit northeast from Wikipedia, northwest > >> from IRC Isles, and southwest of the Sea of Memes. Though it's labelled > >> on the map, it isn't clear that there's actually anything there -- which > >> may well be intentional....
> > Doesn't the dotted outline on a map usually indicate ruins?
> I don't know -- it's not a symbol I remember seeing. Somebody else > suggested it was a sunken island. These both strike me as reasonable > interpretations...
In nautical maps, it usually indicates a shoal; water to shallow to sail, but not dry land.
Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper > <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the >>>>>> northeast side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois >>>>>> perfectly intelligible. I did not. >>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm >>>>> struggling to find a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>> Or the Orioles.
> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
The Orioles used to be a great team, back before the American Association folded...
Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: > On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper > <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >> Or the Orioles.
> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
-- Evelyn C. Leeper I don't need a friend who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better. -Plutarch
> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>> Or the Orioles.
>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
"aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
<elee...@optonline.net> wrote: >Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>> Or the Orioles.
>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
Kurt Busiek wrote: > On 2009-11-10 05:03:01 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the >>>>>>>> northeast >>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm >>>>>>> struggling to find >>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>>> Or the Orioles.
>>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
> "aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in > many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
> kdb
I was responding to the statement that neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
-- Evelyn C. Leeper I don't need a friend who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better. -Plutarch
> Kurt Busiek wrote: >> On 2009-11-10 05:03:01 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>>> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
>> "aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in >> many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
> I was responding to the statement that neither Canada nor Baltimore has > major league baseball.
Actually, you were responding to the statement "Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!" Look for yourself.
Your response doesn't make any sense unless it's meant to be a response to Lawrence. Who would respond to the statement, "Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball" by saying, "Or the Orioles"?
Kurt Busiek wrote: > On 2009-11-10 15:44:24 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>> Kurt Busiek wrote: >>> On 2009-11-10 05:03:01 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> >>> said:
>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>>>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the >>>>>>>>>> northeast >>>>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm >>>>>>>>> struggling to find >>>>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>>>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>>>> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
>>> "aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in >>> many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
>> I was responding to the statement that neither Canada nor Baltimore >> has major league baseball.
> Actually, you were responding to the statement "Oh, come on, the > Bluejays aren't THAT bad!" Look for yourself.
> Your response doesn't make any sense unless it's meant to be a response > to Lawrence. Who would respond to the statement, "Neither Canada nor > Baltimore has major league baseball" by saying, "Or the Orioles"?
I was responding to the half that was not responded to already.
-- Evelyn C. Leeper I don't need a friend who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better. -Plutarch
> Kurt Busiek wrote: >> On 2009-11-10 15:44:24 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>>> Kurt Busiek wrote: >>>> On 2009-11-10 05:03:01 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>>>>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>>>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>>>>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>>>>> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
>>>> "aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in >>>> many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
>>> I was responding to the statement that neither Canada nor Baltimore has >>> major league baseball.
>> Actually, you were responding to the statement "Oh, come on, the >> Bluejays aren't THAT bad!" Look for yourself.
>> Your response doesn't make any sense unless it's meant to be a response >> to Lawrence. Who would respond to the statement, "Neither Canada nor >> Baltimore has major league baseball" by saying, "Or the Orioles"?
> I was responding to the half that was not responded to already.
Right. And since Lawrence was saying the Jays aren't that bad," then in context, you're saying that the Orioles aren't that bad.
Which is why Lawrence responded the way he did: The Orioles have been awful.
So both of you were making subjective statements. If you mean to say that the Orioles are, in fact, and MLB team, you didn't manage it.
Kurt Busiek wrote: > On 2009-11-10 18:00:09 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>> Kurt Busiek wrote: >>> On 2009-11-10 15:44:24 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> >>> said:
>>>> Kurt Busiek wrote: >>>>> On 2009-11-10 05:03:01 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> >>>>> said:
>>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>>>>>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>>>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the >>>>>>>>>>>> northeast >>>>>>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm >>>>>>>>>>> struggling to find >>>>>>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>>>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>>>>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>>>>>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>>>>>> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
>>>>> "aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in >>>>> many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
>>>> I was responding to the statement that neither Canada nor Baltimore >>>> has major league baseball.
>>> Actually, you were responding to the statement "Oh, come on, the >>> Bluejays aren't THAT bad!" Look for yourself.
>>> Your response doesn't make any sense unless it's meant to be a >>> response to Lawrence. Who would respond to the statement, "Neither >>> Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball" by saying, "Or the >>> Orioles"?
>> I was responding to the half that was not responded to already.
> Right. And since Lawrence was saying the Jays aren't that bad," then in > context, you're saying that the Orioles aren't that bad.
> Which is why Lawrence responded the way he did: The Orioles have been > awful.
> So both of you were making subjective statements. If you mean to say > that the Orioles are, in fact, and MLB team, you didn't manage it.
Life's tough--deal with it.
-- Evelyn C. Leeper I don't need a friend who changes when I change and who nods when I nod; my shadow does that much better. -Plutarch
> Kurt Busiek wrote: >> On 2009-11-10 18:00:09 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>>> Kurt Busiek wrote: >>>> On 2009-11-10 15:44:24 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>>>>> Kurt Busiek wrote: >>>>>> On 2009-11-10 05:03:01 -0800, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> said:
>>>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>>>>>>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>>>>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>>>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>>>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball. >>>>>>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad! >>>>>>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>>>>>>> Oh, you haven't been following the Orioles lately?
>>>>>>> Oh, so these were subjective rather than objective statements?
>>>>>> "aren't THAT bad" is pretty much gonna be a subjective statement in >>>>>> many, many contexts. It's a qualitative judgment.
>>>>> I was responding to the statement that neither Canada nor Baltimore has >>>>> major league baseball.
>>>> Actually, you were responding to the statement "Oh, come on, the >>>> Bluejays aren't THAT bad!" Look for yourself.
>>>> Your response doesn't make any sense unless it's meant to be a response >>>> to Lawrence. Who would respond to the statement, "Neither Canada nor >>>> Baltimore has major league baseball" by saying, "Or the Orioles"?
>>> I was responding to the half that was not responded to already.
>> Right. And since Lawrence was saying the Jays aren't that bad," then >> in context, you're saying that the Orioles aren't that bad.
>> Which is why Lawrence responded the way he did: The Orioles have been awful.
>> So both of you were making subjective statements. If you mean to say >> that the Orioles are, in fact, and MLB team, you didn't manage it.
> Life's tough--deal with it.
No skin off my nose if you can't write what you mean in a way that communicates it. By all means, carry on.
<elee...@optonline.net> wrote: >Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>Or the Orioles.
Major League Baseball is played by teams of nine men. Toronto and Baltimore field teams of ten.
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper > <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>> Or the Orioles.
> Major League Baseball is played by teams of nine men.
That'll come as a surprise to the 25-man roster.
I wonder when the last MLB game in which both sides used only nine men was?
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>>> Or the Orioles.
>> Major League Baseball is played by teams of nine men.
>That'll come as a surprise to the 25-man roster.
He refers, of course, to the designated hitter rule.
I freely acknowledge that it changes the game and that was a relatively recent addition, but there have been lots of changes over the history of the major leagues (e.g., banning the spitball), so I don't consider that one terminal.
I also haven't decided yet which version of the game I prefer. Been studyin' on it for years without reaching a conclusion.
>I wonder when the last MLB game in which both sides used only nine men was?
I can look it up, if you really care -- it's in the book A GAME OF INCHES, which is around here somewhere. I'm guessing about 100-120 years ago.
Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:03 -0800, Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.com> > wrote:
>>That'll come as a surprise to the 25-man roster.
> He refers, of course, to the designated hitter rule.
> I freely acknowledge that it changes the game and that was a > relatively recent addition, but there have been lots of changes over > the history of the major leagues (e.g., banning the spitball), so I > don't consider that one terminal.
> I also haven't decided yet which version of the game I prefer. Been > studyin' on it for years without reaching a conclusion.
>>I wonder when the last MLB game in which both sides used only nine men was?
> I can look it up, if you really care -- it's in the book A GAME OF > INCHES, which is around here somewhere. I'm guessing about 100-120 > years ago.
Hmmm...it can't really be that long ago, can it? Complete games were much more common up to, say, 35-40 years ago, and the AL didn't have a DH until 1973(?)...aw heck, now I'm curious, and I have insomnia tonight, so what the hey...
<rummage, rummage...books...nope...more books...nope, not gonna work; gotta try online...google: mlb "both pitchers" "complete games"... spahn/marichal 26 innings?...no...more google...jenkins/gibson?...> Aha - some luck:
I have no idea if there are more recent such games, though. Maybe there's a better source, or a more systematic way to find them than the lucky bumbling thing I did above.
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:03 -0800, Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.com> > wrote:
>> On 2009-11-11 16:39:25 -0800, Doug Wickström <nimshu...@comcast.net> said:
>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on the northeast >>>>>>>> side of the Pacific found Baltimore street patois perfectly >>>>>>>> intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm struggling to find >>>>>>> a connection between that and Baltimore. >>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>> Major League Baseball is played by teams of nine men.
>> That'll come as a surprise to the 25-man roster.
> He refers, of course, to the designated hitter rule.
Yeah, but it's still a nonsense point. If he's trying to say that NL teams use nine men per game, he's wrong, and if he's trying to say that AL teams put more than 9 men on the field during play, he's wrong.
It's not as if NL teams don't use pinch hitters; the DH is simply a renewable PH, but the "teams on nine men" objection would apply to both.
> I freely acknowledge that it changes the game and that was a > relatively recent addition, but there have been lots of changes over > the history of the major leagues (e.g., banning the spitball), so I > don't consider that one terminal.
> I also haven't decided yet which version of the game I prefer. Been > studyin' on it for years without reaching a conclusion.
I don't have a conclusion either, except that I think there should be a rule swap during interleague play, so AL teams get to see their pitchers hit, and NL teams get to see a DH. If the point of interleague play is the novelty of facing teams that you ordinarily wouldn't, then give it a little more zing.
>> I wonder when the last MLB game in which both sides used only nine men was?
> I can look it up, if you really care -- it's in the book A GAME OF > INCHES, which is around here somewhere. I'm guessing about 100-120 > years ago.
If it's not too hard to look up, I'd like to know, yeah.
> Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:03 -0800, Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.com> >> wrote:
>>> That'll come as a surprise to the 25-man roster.
>> He refers, of course, to the designated hitter rule.
>> I freely acknowledge that it changes the game and that was a >> relatively recent addition, but there have been lots of changes over >> the history of the major leagues (e.g., banning the spitball), so I >> don't consider that one terminal.
>> I also haven't decided yet which version of the game I prefer. Been >> studyin' on it for years without reaching a conclusion.
>>> I wonder when the last MLB game in which both sides used only nine men was?
>> I can look it up, if you really care -- it's in the book A GAME OF >> INCHES, which is around here somewhere. I'm guessing about 100-120 >> years ago.
> Hmmm...it can't really be that long ago, can it? Complete games were > much more common up to, say, 35-40 years ago, and the AL didn't have > a DH until 1973(?)...aw heck, now I'm curious, and I have insomnia > tonight, so what the hey...
> <rummage, rummage...books...nope...more books...nope, not gonna work; > gotta try online...google: mlb "both pitchers" "complete games"... > spahn/marichal 26 innings?...no...more google...jenkins/gibson?...> > Aha - some luck:
> I have no idea if there are more recent such games, though. Maybe > there's a better source, or a more systematic way to find them than > the lucky bumbling thing I did above.
> Lots of neat names in that boxscore, btw. > Tony
> On 2009-11-11 21:13:55 -0800, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> > said:
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:04:03 -0800, Kurt Busiek >> <k...@busiek.com> wrote:
>>> On 2009-11-11 16:39:25 -0800, Doug Wickström >>> <nimshu...@comcast.net> said:
>>>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:03:07 -0500, Evelyn Leeper >>>> <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>> Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 14:24:34 -0800, "Mike Schilling" >>>>>> <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Jesper Lauridsen" <rorsc...@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote in >>>>>>> message news:hd262l$ii9$2@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>> On 2009-11-03, Moriarty <blue...@ivillage.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> _The Wire_ is a great example. No doubt you people on >>>>>>>>> the northeast side of the Pacific found Baltimore street >>>>>>>>> patois perfectly intelligible. I did not. >>>>>>>> The northeast side of the Pacific is Canada/Alaska. I'm >>>>>>>> struggling to find a connection between that and >>>>>>>> Baltimore. >>>>>>> Neither Canada nor Baltimore has major league baseball.
>>>>>> Oh, come on, the Bluejays aren't THAT bad!
>>>>> Or the Orioles.
>>>> Major League Baseball is played by teams of nine men.
>>> That'll come as a surprise to the 25-man roster.
>> He refers, of course, to the designated hitter rule.
> Yeah, but it's still a nonsense point. If he's trying to say > that NL teams use nine men per game, he's wrong, and if he's > trying to say that AL teams put more than 9 men on the field > during play, he's wrong.
I expect his real point is that he doesn't like the DH rule, or more likely yet, that he doesn't like people who do.
-- Terry Austin
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole." -- David Bilek
On 3 Nov 2009 18:37:30 GMT, "Default User" <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Closed captioning on the DVD should not be needed if (A) you have >> decent hearing, and (B) the dialog is in a language you understand, >> though. I do sometimes use subtitles/CC for English-language DVDs if >> I'm watching them WITH other people (because other people may talk at >> inopportune moments) but I shouldn't NEED it.
>Even though my hearing is normal, I use CC quite a bit. It usually >doesn't hurt, and is sometimes helpful when lines are said too fast or >mumbled or other circumstances. Sometimes the CC will give you the >titles to music that is played during a show or movie, which can be >handy, not to mention lyrics.
I hardly ever use CC to watch shows, but I use it a lot in video games.
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