On Oct 29, 9:50 pm, Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 9:12 pm, "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> > David DeLaney <d...@vic.com> wrote: > > > Surely every child has been exposed to "What's purple and > > > commutes?", yes?
> > Of course, along with, "What's yellow and equivalent to the axiom > > of choice?"
> And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?"
Now that's one I can't recall seeing before. If the answer is (pfui) Banana Space, that is even worse than Abelian Grape and Zorn's Lemon. Dumb, dumb, dumb. -- Judge: Your name's Joshua, boy? Are you the Joshua who made the sun stand still? Heh heh. Prisoner: No sir, your honor, I'm the Joshua who made the moonshine still.
Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote: >On Oct 29, 9:12 pm, "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote: >> David DeLaney <d...@vic.com> wrote: >> > Surely every child has been exposed to "What's purple and >> > commutes?", yes?
>> Of course, along with, "What's yellow and equivalent to the axiom >> of choice?"
>And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?"
Checking ... okay, yes, google knows all. Sort of scary there.
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On Oct 29, 4:42 pm, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:14:24 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
> <rja.carne...@excite.com> wrote: > >In other news, I was just thinking that me publicly abusing Lawrence > >Watt-Evans is rarely as productive as this, but then I look at the > >mathematical responses and I've created a monster. It's frankly > >isturbing how many people know what "abelian" means (it isn't in the > >bible), or maybe it reflects a thorough modern education that isn't > >quite what people got where I live.
> I'm not isturbed, so far as I know.
Oh, you is turbed.
In other news today, leave me alone. ;-) I have to use a special eyboard on account of isability. Actually it's called Fitaly, works by stylus on any touchscreen, and I should get around to making it talk as I type so I can spot those accidents. Each mistak makes me look thice as big an idion.
On Oct 29, 10:09 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> >Robert Carnegie wrote: > >> In other news, I was just thinking that me publicly abusing Lawrence > >> Watt-Evans is rarely as productive as this, but then I look at the > >> mathematical responses and I've created a monster. It's frankly > >> disturbing how many people know what "abelian" means
> > So you're saying many of them are disabeled?
> Cain it!
> Surely every child has been exposed to "What's purple and commutes?", yes? > ... what?
You went to a school for special children, didn't you?
Szymon Sokol <szy...@bastard.operator.from.hell.pl> wrote: > On 29 Oct 2009 12:58:57 GMT, Anthony Nance wrote:
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote: >>> Butch Malahide wrote: >>>> On Oct 28, 11:42 am, Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2009-10-28 09:40:32 -0700, Butch Malahide <fred.gal...@gmail.com> said:
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 11:21 am, Lawrence Watt-Evans <l...@sff.net> wrote: >>>>>>> I assure you, my basement's only inhabitants are me and a few spiders. >>>>>> How does the ecology work? Do the spiders eke out a precarious >>>>>> existence by eating one another? Do you feed them some insects once in >>>>>> a while to keep them from dying out? >>>>> Lawrence is in the Washington DC area. Like everyone else in the >>>>> neighborhood, the spiders commute.
>>>> He has Abelian spiders?
>>> Spiders multiply, and that's a commutative property.
>> But what if this is all happening in the Matrix?
Butch Malahide wrote: > On Oct 29, 9:50 pm, Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote: >> And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?" > If the answer is (pfui) > Banana Space, that is even worse than Abelian Grape and Zorn's Lemon. > Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Nope, the answer is *Bananach* Space.
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In article <hccf1k$f7...@solani.org>, k...@busiek.com says...
> On 2009-10-29 06:13:25 -0700, cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> said:
> > I've heard it claimed that "Its impossible to be more the n feet from > > a spider", where n is some small number, usually on the order or 7.
> If they're running around in the walls or under the floors, they're > welcome to it. I just don't want them or their prey in the spaces > where the people live. I feel similarly about squirrels and bats; fine > in their place, but that place is not the living room.
There are spiderwebs in each corner of my bedroom in my country home. I had an especially annoying fly one evening, that just wouldn't shut up and would not stay put for long enough for me to kill it. If it hadn't met with one of those, I wouldn't have gotten much sleep that night. As it was, I enjoyed seeing that bug shut up and sucked dry most efficiently.
In article <hccj6p$qk...@news.eternal-september.org>, mstem...@walkabout.empros.com says...
> In article <4e42d8af-d868-4be7-9411-be247446b...@v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, Robert Carnegie <rja.carne...@excite.com> writes: > >On Oct 29, 1:13=A0pm, cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Oct 28, 8:44=A0pm, Kurt Busiek <k...@busiek.com> wrote:
> >> > My feeling is that spiders are perfectly fine as long as they're > >> > outside, and the same for the insects they prey on. =A0I don't want > >> > either in the house, and will take steps to prevent them from living in > >> > my home.
> >> I've heard it claimed that "Its impossible to be more the n feet from > >> a spider", where n is some small number, usually on the order or 7. I
> I've heard "the average human swallows n spiders in his/her life." I'm > pretty sure that mine is an urban legend.
> In article <hccf1k$f7...@solani.org>, k...@busiek.com says... >> On 2009-10-29 06:13:25 -0700, cryptoguy <treifam...@gmail.com> said:
>>> I've heard it claimed that "Its impossible to be more the n feet from >>> a spider", where n is some small number, usually on the order or 7.
>> If they're running around in the walls or under the floors, they're >> welcome to it. I just don't want them or their prey in the spaces >> where the people live. I feel similarly about squirrels and bats; fine >> in their place, but that place is not the living room.
> There are spiderwebs in each corner of my bedroom in my country home. I > had an especially annoying fly one evening, that just wouldn't shut up > and would not stay put for long enough for me to kill it. If it hadn't > met with one of those, I wouldn't have gotten much sleep that night. As > it was, I enjoyed seeing that bug shut up and sucked dry most > efficiently.
On Oct 30, 8:15 am, Jo'Asia <joa...@hel.pl> wrote:
> Butch Malahide wrote: > > On Oct 29, 9:50 pm, Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >> And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?" > > If the answer is (pfui) > > Banana Space, that is even worse than Abelian Grape and Zorn's Lemon. > > Dumb, dumb, dumb.
> Nope, the answer is *Bananach* Space.
Huh. That was the *first* answer I thought of. Dithered for a while between Banana and Bananach. Something to be said against each of them: Banana is not a very good approximation to Banach, but Bananach is not the name of a yellow-skinned fruit. Finally opted for Banana, and now you tell me that Bananach is *the answer*. Oh, yeah? Prove it. I do *not* accept argument from authority.
Butch Malahide wrote: > On Oct 30, 8:15 am, Jo'Asia <joa...@hel.pl> wrote: >> Butch Malahide wrote: >>> On Oct 29, 9:50 pm, Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>>> And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?" >>> If the answer is (pfui) >>> Banana Space, that is even worse than Abelian Grape and Zorn's >>> Lemon. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
>> Nope, the answer is *Bananach* Space.
> Huh. That was the *first* answer I thought of. Dithered for a while > between Banana and Bananach. Something to be said against each of > them: Banana is not a very good approximation to Banach, but Bananach > is not the name of a yellow-skinned fruit. Finally opted for Banana, > and now you tell me that Bananach is *the answer*. Oh, yeah? Prove it. > I do *not* accept argument from authority.
I notice that no one has mentioned the Continuum Hippopotamus.
Mike Schilling <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Butch Malahide wrote: >> On Oct 30, 8:15 am, Jo'Asia <joa...@hel.pl> wrote: >>> Butch Malahide wrote: >>>> On Oct 29, 9:50 pm, Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>>>> And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?" >>>> If the answer is (pfui) >>>> Banana Space, that is even worse than Abelian Grape and Zorn's >>>> Lemon. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
>>> Nope, the answer is *Bananach* Space.
>> Huh. That was the *first* answer I thought of. Dithered for a while >> between Banana and Bananach. Something to be said against each of >> them: Banana is not a very good approximation to Banach, but Bananach >> is not the name of a yellow-skinned fruit. Finally opted for Banana, >> and now you tell me that Bananach is *the answer*. Oh, yeah? Prove it. >> I do *not* accept argument from authority.
> I notice that no one has mentioned the Continuum Hippopotamus.
Robert Carnegie <rja.carne...@excite.com> wrote: >10:09 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote: >> Surely every child has been exposed to "What's purple and commutes?", yes? >> ... what?
>You went to a school for special children, didn't you?
>(I did...)
It didn't start OFF that way, no.
Dave -- \/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK> http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
> Butch Malahide wrote: > > On Oct 30, 8:15 am, Jo'Asia <joa...@hel.pl> wrote: > >> Butch Malahide wrote: > >>> On Oct 29, 9:50 pm, Kevin Wald <w...@math.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >>>> And "What's yellow, normed, linear, and complete?" > >>> If the answer is (pfui) > >>> Banana Space, that is even worse than Abelian Grape and Zorn's > >>> Lemon. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
> >> Nope, the answer is *Bananach* Space.
> > Huh. That was the *first* answer I thought of. Dithered for a while > > between Banana and Bananach. Something to be said against each of > > them: Banana is not a very good approximation to Banach, but Bananach > > is not the name of a yellow-skinned fruit. Finally opted for Banana, > > and now you tell me that Bananach is *the answer*. Oh, yeah? Prove it. > > I do *not* accept argument from authority.
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It's a good thing pears come in a variety of colors, or we'd have to put up with dumb jokes about Pear Spaces and the Pear Category Theorem.
Butch Malahide wrote: > It's a good thing pears come in a variety of colors, or we'd have to > put up with dumb jokes about Pear Spaces and the Pear Category > Theorem.
Also that there's no common word for their shape other than "pear-shaped".
On Oct 30, 1:50 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Butch Malahide wrote: > > It's a good thing pears come in a variety of colors, or we'd have to > > put up with dumb jokes about Pear Spaces and the Pear Category > > Theorem.
> Also that there's no common word for their shape other than "pear-shaped".
Damn it, that works:
What kind of space is pear-shaped and has the property that the intersection of any countable family of dense open subsets is dense?
Exercise: construct a Feghoot for ". . . bearcat--a gory tearoom."
Mike Schilling <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Butch Malahide wrote: >> It's a good thing pears come in a variety of colors, or we'd have >> to put up with dumb jokes about Pear Spaces and the Pear Category >> Theorem.
How many colors? Can you prove the four-color pear theorem?
> Also that there's no common word for their shape other than > "pear-shaped".
Mike Schilling <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Butch Malahide wrote: >> ... and now you tell me that Bananach is *the answer*. Oh, yeah? >> Prove it.
Do a Google search on the riddle.
> I do *not* accept argument from authority.
Google is not an authority; Google is a search engine. QED.
> I notice that no one has mentioned the Continuum Hippopotamus.
That's the one about how it's been proved that it can't be proved whether there's an animal intermediate in size between the hippopotamus and the elephant? Even elephantine equations won't help.
The person whose job it is to clean up after the Continuum Hippopotamus was asked why he puts up with such a dirty low-paying long-hours job. "What, and leave mathematics?"
netcat <net...@devnull.eridani.eol.ee> wrote: > There are spiderwebs in each corner of my bedroom in my country > home. I had an especially annoying fly one evening, that just > wouldn't shut up and would not stay put for long enough for me > to kill it. If it hadn't met with one of those, I wouldn't have > gotten much sleep that night. As it was, I enjoyed seeing that > bug shut up and sucked dry most efficiently.
On the other hand, one night I was kept awake for hours by a faint but sharp clicking. It was obviously in my bedroom somewhere. I just couldn't get to sleep until I found the source. It was difficult to find, as it only happened once or twice a minute.
Eventually I found the source: A click bug caught in a cobweb. I put it out of my misery, and went to sleep.
These days, I use a white noise generator to drown on stray noises. ObMath: At some point I plan to replace it with a .wav file of the first billion digits of pi. -- Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/ Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
On Oct 30, 7:20 pm, "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
> Mike Schilling <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Butch Malahide wrote: > >> ... and now you tell me that Bananach is *the answer*. Oh, yeah? > >> Prove it.
> Do a Google search on the riddle.
> > I do *not* accept argument from authority.
> Google is not an authority;
Of course not. Who said it was?
> Google is a search engine.
And it finds web pages that Google may consider authorities but I don't. In this case, the first hit I get is an anonymous comment on the discussion page for the Wikipedia article on normed linear spaces. I am not convinced. I'm willing to stipulate that the originator of the riddle and everyone since considers "Bananach space" to be the right answer. So what?
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