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Mike Ash  
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 More options Oct 16, 6:51 pm
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
From: Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:51:40 -0400
Local: Fri, Oct 16 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: Iain M. Banks, _Transition_
I'll try to keep this spoiler-free. If you want to talk more in depth
about events in the book, please don't forget the appropriate warnings.

I finally got _Transition_ from the local library and finished it last
night. Overall opinion: quite good! I thought Banks had gone downhill a
bit with _The Algebraist_ and really downhill with _Matter_, but
_Transition_ is excellent. I won't call it a return to form, because
it's really very different from his usual, but it's at least a return to
former heights of quality.

The structure of the book makes the plot difficult to follow, especially
for the first 2/3rds or so. The story is told from the viewpoint of many
different characters, and is very disjointed, both spatially and to a
lesser extent temporally. Each character's viewpoint lasts a couple of
pages, then you jump to another character, quite posibbly in a
completely different place and maybe a different time. It takes a fair
amount of mental work to piece everything together. The action is also
very slow to start, with the first 2/3rds or so feeling like setup, and
the last part finally building up to an actual climax.

Normally this might bother me, but not in this case. At least 90% of the
individual passages were interesting enough on their own that I could
just enjoy them individually and let the connections come. The remaining
few that weren't didn't really matter because they were soon over, and
still contributed to the overall story.

The main character (which is a difficult title to assign here, but he is
ultimately the focus) is an agent for "the Concern", an organization
whose people can "flit" between alternate realities, and sometimes have
other similar powers. Nominally, this power is used to improve lives in
the many worlds: they assassinate dictators and potential dictators,
save the lives of people who will eventually make significant
contributions to society, etc. Of course not is all as it seems at first
glance.

We get to see an interesting collection of other characters, including
one of the agent's teachers, a powerful member of the Concern's ruling
council (who has cats with names like Monsieur Pamplemousse, cracks me
up every time I think about it), a professional torturer, and a British
cocaine dealer who's trying to get into stock trading.

This book is not for the faint of heart. There are some graphic
descriptions of torture and one pretty disturbing rape scene. I didn't
find them to be gratuitous, and indeed they contribute strongly to the
story and the characters, but that doesn't lessen their impact.

All in all, highly recommended, but beware that the plot can be
difficult to keep track of.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon


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DouhetSukd  
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 More options Oct 17, 6:55 am
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From: DouhetSukd <douhets...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Oct 17 2009 6:55 am
Subject: Re: Iain M. Banks, _Transition_
On Oct 16, 10:51 am, Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com> wrote:

> I'll try to keep this spoiler-free. If you want to talk more in depth
> about events in the book, please don't forget the appropriate warnings.

> I finally got _Transition_ from the local library and finished it last
> night. Overall opinion: quite good! I thought Banks had gone downhill a
> bit with _The Algebraist_ and really downhill with _Matter_, but
> _Transition_ is excellent. I won't call it a return to form, because
> it's really very different from his usual, but it's at least a return to
> former heights of quality.

Banks seemed worse to me lately in the non-SF version.  I didn't mind
Algebraist, really.  And I couldn't remember anything bad about
Matter.  In fact, I couldn't remember what Matter was about until I
read its Wiki entry.  That barely jolted my recollection.

But I've just re-read Use of Weapons and could use a good Banks again.

> All in all, highly recommended, but beware that the plot can be
> difficult to keep track of.

Txs.  Good review.  I was really wondering if Transition was worth
looking into and you've typed me into it.

One question, though.  Is Banks all preachy about his political views
in this one?  I don't mind subtlety, but he's been getting worse in
non-SF.


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Mike Ash  
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 More options Oct 17, 5:18 pm
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From: Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:18:58 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 17 2009 5:18 pm
Subject: Re: Iain M. Banks, _Transition_
In article
<a3df29a5-4b60-4848-b56e-0f9f0068a...@m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,

I didn't *mind* _The Algebraist_, it just wasn't the level of quality I
expect from the man. Still better than 99% of what's out there, but I
expect Banks to be better than 99.99% of what's out there.

_Matter_ was, as you say, kind of uninspiring.

_Transition_ doesn't quite reach the heights of UoW, but even good Banks
rarely does, and I'd definitely put it in the "good Banks" category.

> > All in all, highly recommended, but beware that the plot can be
> > difficult to keep track of.

> Txs.  Good review.  I was really wondering if Transition was worth
> looking into and you've typed me into it.

> One question, though.  Is Banks all preachy about his political views
> in this one?  I don't mind subtlety, but he's been getting worse in
> non-SF.

I think the answer to this one will be pretty personal. In my opinion,
no, he's not preachy. There are a couple of characters which are
preachy. For example, the main agent character describes our world as
being a typical example of a "greedist" world, and this seems to have a
bit of authorial voice behind it. On the other hand, this fellow kills
people for a living and thus does not exactly occupy the moral high
ground. The British coke dealer is one of those "greed is good" types,
has a chance to explain his attitudes a couple of times, and is never
"shown the error of his ways" or anything like that, so it seems to
cancel out. You can agree with one and dismiss the other, or simply read
them both as being interesting windows into the characters' brains, as
you like.

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Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon


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Bill Snyder  
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 More options Oct 18, 7:40 pm
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From: Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:40:53 -0500
Local: Sun, Oct 18 2009 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: Iain M. Banks, _Transition_
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:18:58 -0400, Mike Ash <m...@mikeash.com>
wrote:

Um, if orvat dhvgr yvgrenyyl xvyyrq ol uvf cbffrffvbaf doesn't
constitute being "shown the error of his ways," and preachiness,
what would?

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Bill Snyder  [This space unintentionally left blank]


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rexgatch@yahoo.co.uk  
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 More options Nov 7, 8:36 am
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From: "rexga...@yahoo.co.uk" <rexga...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:36:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 8:36 am
Subject: Re: Iain M. Banks, _Transition_
On Oct 18, 1:40 pm, Bill Snyder <bsny...@airmail.net> wrote:

It took me about three weeks to finish this (which is 21 times longer
than a good Banks novel) and I really didn't like it all, I will post
a longer version of the many reasons why at some point but I do find
it saddening to see an author who I adore write yet another weak book

Regards

Rex


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