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  <title type="text">rec.bicycles.misc Google Group</title>
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  General discussion of bicycling.
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  <updated>2008-11-20T07:55:15Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Edward Dolan</name>
  <email>edo...@iw.net</email>
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  <updated>2008-11-20T07:55:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/1956f219dd017a89?show_docid=1956f219dd017a89</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/1956f219dd017a89?show_docid=1956f219dd017a89"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  [...] &lt;br&gt; vultures, monkeys, rats, etc. &lt;br&gt; Fucking Regards, &lt;br&gt; Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota &lt;br&gt; aka &lt;br&gt; Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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  <author>
  <name>Luigi de Guzman</name>
  <email>luigi12...@cox.net</email>
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  <updated>2008-11-20T04:25:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/5bac2b841ee7aef2/38c9bb79cdc38d1f?show_docid=38c9bb79cdc38d1f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/5bac2b841ee7aef2/38c9bb79cdc38d1f?show_docid=38c9bb79cdc38d1f"/>
  <title type="text">Monty Python: Bicycle Repairman!</title>
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  Monty Python has decided to surrender to the inevitable and start posting &lt;br&gt; &#39;official&#39; YouTube videos. This is possibly my favorite one yet: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01xasUtlvw&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; It certainly feeds my own bicycle-repair heroics fantasies. I mean, there &lt;br&gt; was this one time that I was able to help out a couple of kids fix their
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tom Keats</name>
  <email>tkeats2...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T02:51:21Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/39f998122e492072/5a008492f657c75d?show_docid=5a008492f657c75d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/39f998122e492072/5a008492f657c75d?show_docid=5a008492f657c75d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bicycle Commuting on the Rise</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;0s1ev5-sv9....@curare.zuvembi .homelinux.org&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; I guess they&#39;re just too tight for my arm movements. &lt;br&gt; I tend to be one of those gesticulating talkers. &lt;br&gt; ... &lt;br&gt; I really do recommend trying cheap knee-high hiking gaiters &lt;br&gt; like mine. You could possibly find a pair at a surplus store. &lt;br&gt; They do the trick quite nicely. Mine are black nylon or
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>KingOfTheApes</name>
  <email>comandante.ban...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-20T02:01:33Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/77e03f0e878fb5e7?show_docid=77e03f0e878fb5e7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: A March on Washington... on Bicycle?</title>
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  What does the word &amp;quot;banana&amp;quot; tell you? &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;BANANA? Yes, it appeals to the monkey within us, yearning for the &lt;br&gt; simple life in the jungle. Well, perhaps it&#39;s a symbol of a better &lt;br&gt; world to come in frugality and peace.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; As I was watching &#39;2001: A Space Odyssey,&#39; it perfectly made sense &lt;br&gt; that the monkeys were first vegetarian (banana eaters) before
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Harry Brogan</name>
  <email>hbroga...@nospam.yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T22:53:17Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/7212437f9b380088/f3cc530a746fac53?show_docid=f3cc530a746fac53</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/7212437f9b380088/f3cc530a746fac53?show_docid=f3cc530a746fac53"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Could Key West be a bike model for America?</title>
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  Here&#39;s a question for YOU!!!! Have you ever stood a watch in the &lt;br&gt; cold, wet rain? And wondered what the hell you were doing? Then &lt;br&gt; realizing that it&#39;s YOUR freedom that you are standing there for. &lt;br&gt; Conspiracy theories have been around since the dawn of time. For &lt;br&gt; every web site, reason, or video that you can supply there are plenty
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>KingOfTheApes</name>
  <email>comandante.ban...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T21:44:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/05caffd49f725b87?show_docid=05caffd49f725b87</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/05caffd49f725b87?show_docid=05caffd49f725b87"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  See, things are not as simple as &amp;quot;roads are good, bike paths/lanes are &lt;br&gt; bad&amp;quot;... &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Where I live now in Tigard, OR scored a 69, so it is an effort to &lt;br&gt; walk as most stores are about 1.5 miles away, but it is a pleasure to &lt;br&gt; bike as there are good paths and bike lanes. For example there&#39;s an &lt;br&gt; Albertsons 2.08 miles away at the end of a multiuse path that crosses
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>KingOfTheApes</name>
  <email>comandante.ban...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T21:29:42Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/22a2e0d07d74cc3b?show_docid=22a2e0d07d74cc3b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  The same effect may be achievable by requiring a special license for &lt;br&gt; SUVs, which after all are &amp;quot;trucks.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Funny, they are trucks to go through the safety loopholes, but not to &lt;br&gt; require a license.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dane Buson</name>
  <email>d...@unseen.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T20:22:51Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/91ffa3befa93e695?show_docid=91ffa3befa93e695"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  Mmmmm hmmmm.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dane Buson</name>
  <email>d...@unseen.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T20:22:03Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/b23be45726fa99ed?show_docid=b23be45726fa99ed"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  I&#39;d have to agree, and I&#39;ll trot out my personal bete noire. I think &lt;br&gt; one of the best ways to improve safety (in the U.S.) is to make getting &lt;br&gt; and keeping a license a *little* harder and a *little* more expensive. &lt;br&gt; As it is with $25 and a pulse, you can pretty much get a license. &lt;br&gt; That and retesting *everyone* every five years. If you can&#39;t be
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dane Buson</name>
  <email>d...@unseen.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T20:18:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/39f998122e492072/837a741ec98983ed?show_docid=837a741ec98983ed</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/39f998122e492072/837a741ec98983ed?show_docid=837a741ec98983ed"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bicycle Commuting on the Rise</title>
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  I have been perusing Goodwill for men&#39;s wool trousers [1]. Some &lt;br&gt; generous hemming and I have cycling knickers. Now I just need to buy &lt;br&gt; some of the argyle wool socks Ryan was mentioning and I&#39;ll be stylish &lt;br&gt; indeed. ;-) &lt;br&gt; [1] It helps that 32 waist is not that popular a size, so there is a &lt;br&gt; decent selection.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dane Buson</name>
  <email>d...@unseen.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T20:24:11Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/13dafd1f1792a7b3/dafc1922aedb76b9?show_docid=dafc1922aedb76b9"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Really COLD and WET: what do you wear on your legs?</title>
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  I like them better myself, I was pointing out another (much more &lt;br&gt; expensive) option. Mainly because it was the only other thing I found.
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  <author>
  <name>KingOfTheApes</name>
  <email>comandante.ban...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T19:04:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/88379223b28c9133?show_docid=88379223b28c9133</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/88379223b28c9133?show_docid=88379223b28c9133"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  I hope I don&#39;t sound too nationalistic... ;) &lt;br&gt; After the Big Three crash, what&#39;s next? &lt;br&gt; You know, after Detroit goes under, what do we do with Japanese and &lt;br&gt; European competition. I&#39;d tax both Japanese and European imports &lt;br&gt; because they are not going to cash in into American weaknesses. &lt;br&gt; Then I&#39;d make Detroit build fast trains, EVs, and bikes and let the
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>KingOfTheApes</name>
  <email>comandante.ban...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T18:46:32Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/8a372dcef33c34b3?show_docid=8a372dcef33c34b3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  Not on major streets. It depends whether you are talking about a &lt;br&gt; bikeable place or just a &amp;quot;hole&amp;quot;... &lt;br&gt; (and there&#39;s a lot of people living in it, see poll) &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=487455&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Now the question is how many decades we will take to make drivers, who &lt;br&gt; are used to the law of the jungle, more civilized? Perhaps never,
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dane Buson</name>
  <email>d...@unseen.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T18:18:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/39f998122e492072/469a97c0b8707d50?show_docid=469a97c0b8707d50</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/39f998122e492072/469a97c0b8707d50?show_docid=469a97c0b8707d50"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bicycle Commuting on the Rise</title>
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  How in the heck do you do that? &lt;br&gt; Well, my current sweater is a fairly nice black V-neck. I do have one &lt;br&gt; sort of baggy button-up which is servicable but way too large for me &lt;br&gt; anymore. I lost about thirty pounds recently and went from a Large size &lt;br&gt; to Medium. Maybe I should wash and dry it to intentionally shrink it.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Peter Clinch</name>
  <email>p.j.cli...@dundee.ac.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-19T17:37:51Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.ng/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_thread/thread/a1abc4883c088c5d/4ddd93130bc6ccce?show_docid=4ddd93130bc6ccce"/>
  <title type="text">Re: I am convinced bicycling is not safe</title>
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  Look at the NL, again. Plenty of places with no fietspads, yet &lt;br&gt; still families and kids out on bikes. Which takes you back to &lt;br&gt; respect being more important than bike paths. &lt;br&gt; How many times does it have to be pointed out to you that unless &lt;br&gt; you can get rid of junctions between roads and bike paths, and you
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