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Jason Pawloski  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 8:27 am
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From: "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:27:25 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:27 am
Subject: Short Vegas Trip Report
Was in Vegas Tues-Thurs for a conference. Stayed at the Excalibur - my
first south strip experience. The flight in and other travel was
unremarkable. I took the shuttle to the hotel for like $6. I checked in
early, got an upgrade. Rooms are standard, not particularly nice but
nothing wrong with them. I didn't like the shower and I didn't seem to
have unlimited hot water - a huge minus. Decent view of New York New York
and CityCenter, facing the north strip.

On Tuesday night I got drunk and played with a friend I know in Vegas at
the MGM. They had 1-2 NLHE and a limit game, I think 3/6. I was pretty
hosed at this point in the night but there are two hands that I got
completely fucked on.

I bought in for $100 and after folding for about 20 minutes, I get a
monster in my BB - J3. A bunch of limpers and I check. Flop comes 33T. I
bet, everyone folds but this Asian guy. Asian guy made a lot of gutsy
moves previously, and I think he would call an all-in with a far worse
hand than what I have. Turn is a 2. I check, he bets like $10, and I raise
to $30, he calls. River is a K. I push and he calls (possibly slow rolled)
and shows 22.

I rebuy for $100 and I grind it to just over $150 and feeling pretty good
about it. About an hour later, I'm on the button with 24. They were
suited, so obviously I couldn't fold. Guy in EP raises. Folds to me and I
decided to "vary my play" and call. Blinds fold. Flop comes 5AA. He
checks; I check. I'm praying like mad for a 3. Turn comes 3. He bets, I
call. River was like an 8 or something. He thinks for a second, bets, and
I push and he instacalls and shows 55. After that I just stumbled back to
my room and fell asleep.

That's pretty much it for poker content. After recovering from a massive
hangover on Wednesday, after the conference let out I went downtown and
played at 4 Queens. That place is such a dump. It's true "old-style"
Vegas, and it reminds me a lot of Reno. I was playing Pai Gow (I have a
weakness for that game) and the pit boss was the traditional creepy piece
of shit that yelled at the dealer for setting the hand wrong (she had like
JJ9T4 instead of JJT94). I lost in Pai Gow and went top lay video poker.
And before I catch shit from Paul, I played 8/5 Jacks with a royal
progressive at $1700 (almost 100%, I believe) and a 9/6 Dbl Dbl Bonus with
progressives on all of the quad pays (also almost 100%). I got my ass
handed to me like I never have before in Vegas. The machines were all in
shit shape. I got like 150 points and they had a promo where I get $10 of
free play. It was 11:45 PM and I go to the counter and she was like "the
machine which gives free play closes at 11:45." There were like 8 things
that stood out as "wrong" in that sentence, and I had to ask her to repeat
it about 4 or 5 times to make sure that the gem of stupidity I heard is,
in fact, what I truly heard.

I saw the Fremont Street experience too. I didn't know what it was but it
was disappointing and a little frightening; the collage of music was
chopped in such a way that each song was about 20 seconds, usually an
introductory line and then it jumps to the chorus. The "jump" was sloppy
though and very unclean from an audio editing part. The choice of music
was good; the women on the top screen that get "blown up" and set on fire
was a little scary. With all the fire I imagine that's what hell would be
like. Also I just got my ass kicked in VP and Pai Gow so I was in my own
hell.

I flew out Thursday night. I was done gambling but I had about 6 hours
before my flight left, so I was going to try to get drunk on the cheap,
which was unsuccessful. I went to a little piano bar in NY NY and it was
fairly entertaining. I love piano bars. I requested "Fool In The Rain" by
Zeppelin but they didn't know it. I picked it because I knew neither of
them had the vocal range for it. I tipped along with the request but they
didn't give me a second choice. Assholes. I went to "The Pub" in the back
of the MGM. Not really impressive. Everything was ridiculously overpriced
of course.

That's pretty much it. Next Vegas trip is in March, and after that the
WSOP in May. I'm hoping one of these Vegas trips, I can break even. I've
never come even close to breaking even. Not once, not close.

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"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 8:30 am
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From: "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:30:56 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:30 am
Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
"Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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<...>

> I bought in for $100 and after folding for about 20 minutes, I get a
> monster in my BB - J3. A bunch of limpers and I check. Flop comes 33T. I
> bet, everyone folds but this Asian guy. Asian guy made a lot of gutsy
> moves previously, and I think he would call an all-in with a far worse
> hand than what I have. Turn is a 2. I check, he bets like $10, and I raise
> to $30, he calls. River is a K. I push and he calls (possibly slow rolled)
> and shows 22.

> I rebuy...

Where does trip deuces beat trip treys?

You: J3

Him: 22

Board: 33T2K

Jim


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 8:40 am
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From: "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:40:46 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 12:30 AM, Clave wrote:

lol

oh man

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 8:42 am
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From: "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:42:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
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I'm ready to look like an idiot here, I'm still a STVM with no Poker Pride
to defend -- please explain to me how you lost that hand.

Jim


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 8:55 am
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From: "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:55:57 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 12:42 AM, Clave wrote:

A 5-card hand that is 22233 is a full house, 2s full of 3s. A 5-card hand
that is 333KJ is 3 of a kind, with a king jack kicker. A full house beats
3 of a kind.

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"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
declaration of Independence does !! YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
:fuck facts ..i have some hate to spread!!" - Constitution scholar K9Way
giving RGP the business

"BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] is rather new." - Jerry Sturdivant chiming
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 8:55 am
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From: "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:55:16 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
"Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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Duh and bluh.

Thanks.

Jim


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 9:11 am
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From: Deadmoney Walking <tbones...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:11:36 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21, 12:27 am, "Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

Nice TR.  I had read that the Excal's bathrooms aren't up to par and
there are better deals.  I can't fault you on the hands too much,
sounds like you could have gotten a decent payoff against the usual
tourist. Cept maybe calling the raise with the 2 4

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 1:50 pm
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From: joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:50:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
Not folding shit like that preflop would not have cost you near as
much! The locals picks out their best player to give you game and I'll
bet each could not wait till their turn for chomping at the bits!

Your lucky you stay was not longer$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


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 More options Nov 21 2009, 1:52 pm
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From: Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:52:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21, 2:30 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
wrote:

ROFL

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 3:06 pm
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From: "JB" <joseph0...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:06:19 -0500
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report

> I'm ready to look like an idiot here, I'm still a STVM with no Poker Pride
> to defend -- please explain to me how you lost that hand.

> Jim

Please let me know your PS screen name and when you will be playing there
next, I promise to show up, anytime.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 4:58 pm
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From: Will in New Haven <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:58:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21, 7:50 am, joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Not folding shit like that preflop would not have cost you near as
> much! The locals picks out their best player to give you game and I'll
> bet each could not wait till their turn for chomping at the bits!

> Your lucky you stay was not longer$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

So the 1/2 games are where "the locals" chop up outsiders. Glad to
know that. I know the 2/5 and 5/10 games are either honest or set up
to pay for my trip every time. Not huge wins but they have covered the
air fares and the (cheap) hotels. Is that what they are doing, quite
nice of them.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 5:11 pm
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From: "James L. Hankins" <jhanki...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:11:16 -0600
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report

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Try to find a "deep stack" tournament, especially at The Venitian.  Those
are a poker player's delight.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 5:51 pm
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From: "XaQ Morphy" <a1c5...@webnntp.invalid>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:51:47 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 1:30 AM, Clave wrote:

> Where does trip deuces beat trip treys?

> You: J3

> Him: 22

> Board: 33T2K

In poker.  Hope this helps.

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Paul Popinjay  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 5:56 pm
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From: "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report

"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message

>>> I'm ready to look like an idiot here, I'm still a STVM with no Poker
>>> Pride
>>> to defend -- please explain to me how you lost that hand.

>>> Jim

>> A 5-card hand that is 22233 is a full house...

> Duh and bluh.

> Thanks.

I rate this 2/10.

The "stvm" was a nice touch, though.  Jason, at least, fell for it.


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Paul Popinjay  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 6:01 pm
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From: "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:01:10 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
"Jason Pawloski" <a679...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message

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> And before I catch shit from Paul,

4Queens currently is matching your points with free play, essentially making
it double points.  You have to go to the desk to activate.  They have some
pretty decent machines there, so I don't know why you chose the poorer
paytables, (except that you might be a retard).  4Queens also is very good
with comps.  It's one of the better deals downtown.

Thanks for the TR.


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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:16:23 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 12:27 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:

Wow! You really know how to party, Jason.

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 More options Nov 21 2009, 6:51 pm
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:51:35 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report

> call. River was like an 8 or something. He thinks for a second, bets, and
> I push and he instacalls and shows 55. After that I just stumbled back to

Not a fan of the push here, I think I just call.

Dean

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From: "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:47:32 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
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>> I'm ready to look like an idiot here, I'm still a STVM with no Poker
>> Pride
>> to defend -- please explain to me how you lost that hand.

>> Jim

> Please let me know your PS screen name and when you will be playing there
> next, I promise to show up, anytime.

Ain't gonna happen.  Online poker's illegal as hell in WA.

Jim


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 More options Nov 22 2009, 2:38 am
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:38:07 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 5:52 AM, Alim Nassor wrote:

If you nurture this carefully, Alim, it might almost make up for Barack
Obama being President of the United States.

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 More options Nov 22 2009, 3:49 am
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:49:28 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21, 8:38 pm, "risky biz" <risky-...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

It's close.  But still lags behind your inability to do basic math.
2009-200 =1709 remember?

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:41:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 7:49 PM, Alim Nassor wrote:

No, I don't. What are you talking about?

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:15:37 -0800
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His desperate need to feel superior to someone.

Jim


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From: Alim Nassor <alimnas...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:30:41 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21, 11:15 pm, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
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It's easy to be superior to a coward Jimmie.

Remember, yellow streak out.


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 More options Nov 22 2009, 4:45 pm
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:45:53 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 2:27 AM, Jason Pawloski wrote:

> That's pretty much it. Next Vegas trip is in March, and after that the
> WSOP in May. I'm hoping one of these Vegas trips, I can break even. I've
> never come even close to breaking even. Not once, not close.

Breaking even sounds like kind of a low place to set the bar.  Good luck
in May.

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:59:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: Short Vegas Trip Report
On Nov 21 2009 12:01 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

> 4Queens currently is matching your points with free play, essentially making
> it double points.  You have to go to the desk to activate.  They have some
> pretty decent machines there, so I don't know why you chose the poorer
> paytables, (except that you might be a retard).  4Queens also is very good
> with comps.  It's one of the better deals downtown.

I did not hear about that promo.  I might have given them more action.  I
just wandered in to see if the progressives were juicy.  I also didn't
check to see how tied in they are to Binion's, across the street, though I
notice they have improved their inventory since my last visit.

Chandler

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