>> The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't argue >> about this.
>> "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan gives >> a >> fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any reason > at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get > anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the > pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. > But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as it > proves he isn't wrong.
See what a shithead you are? Of COURSE I've committed the chips. I committed them and more, when I shoved all in.
>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't argue >> > about this.
>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan >> > gives a >> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >> reason >> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get >> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the >> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. >> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as >> it >> proves he isn't wrong.
>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the rest of > RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them.
Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about this for a second and a half will agree with me.
>>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't argue >>> > about this.
>>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan >>> > gives a >>> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >>> reason >>> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get >>> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the >>> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. >>> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as >>> it >>> proves he isn't wrong.
>>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
>> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the rest of >> RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them. >Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about this >for a second and a half will agree with me.
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:19:06 -0500, "Beldin the Sorcerer" > <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>news:1clgs6xhq7.ln2@recgroups.com... >>> On Nov 7 2009 10:28 AM, Follow wrote:
>>>> On Nov 7 2009 7:51 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't >>>> > argue >>>> > about this.
>>>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan >>>> > gives a >>>> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>>>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >>>> reason >>>> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get >>>> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the >>>> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. >>>> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as >>>> it >>>> proves he isn't wrong.
>>>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
>>> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the rest of >>> RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them. >>Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about >>this >>for a second and a half will agree with me.
> Yet ANOTHER Beldinism.
Turbo, how big a pot is it, if it's 450, with a 150 decision to you, and you call? If you say 600, you're correct. If you raise all in with the best hand instead, how big of a pot are you protecting with your raise. If you say 600, that's my point. If you say 450, explain why. If you can't, see above.
> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't argue > > about this.
> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan gives a > > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any reason > at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get > anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the > pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. > But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as it > proves he isn't wrong.
> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
> Follow :)
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Hell he will redefine the freaking dictionary rather than admit he is wrong. Ask him what the word -fold means, as in a 5-fold increase. Hilarious. Or ask him about case law. ROFL.
>>>"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:1clgs6xhq7.ln2@recgroups.com... >>>> On Nov 7 2009 10:28 AM, Follow wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 7 2009 7:51 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>>>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't >>>>> > argue >>>>> > about this.
>>>>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan >>>>> > gives a >>>>> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>>>>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >>>>> reason >>>>> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get >>>>> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the >>>>> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. >>>>> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as >>>>> it >>>>> proves he isn't wrong.
>>>>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
>>>> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the rest of >>>> RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them. >>>Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about >>>this >>>for a second and a half will agree with me.
>> Yet ANOTHER Beldinism. >Turbo, how big a pot is it, if it's 450, with a 150 decision to you, and you >call? >If you say 600, you're correct.
Before you make your playing decision, the pot is 450. It seems to me that your playing decision should be made on the basis of the 450 that is actually in the pot.
The pot is only 600 AFTER you make your decision. Maybe you're talking some kind of "implied odds" thingie?
Is there even such a thing in NL poker?
My knowledge of NL poker is even more piteous than my knowledge of LLHE.
I was just getting marginally incompetent at playing LLHE, when the big TV poker thing took off. I'm still pissed that nobody talks about Limit any more.
>If you raise all in with the best hand instead, how big of a pot are you >protecting with your raise. >If you say 600, that's my point. >If you say 450, explain why. >If you can't, see above.
So you see, I am the last person around here who should be making judgments about playing poker.
I only commented because it fits your pattern of arguing that you are right, despite being told by 3 or more people that you are wrong.
Heh, I'm probably even the last person around here who should be pointing at someone else.
I've maintained my skepticism about Global Warming, despite being told by many others that I'm wrong to doubt it.
Okay. I will now STFD and STFU about this particular kerfuffle.
> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't argue > > about this.
> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan gives > > a > > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any reason > at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get > anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts the > pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no one. > But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long as it > proves he isn't wrong.
> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
> Follow :)
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Hell he will redefine the freaking dictionary rather than admit he is wrong. Ask him what the word -fold means, as in a 5-fold increase. Hilarious. Or ask him about case law. ROFL. *** Alim, you keep being wrong and not grasping it. It's your best thing.
>>>>"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1clgs6xhq7.ln2@recgroups.com... >>>>> On Nov 7 2009 10:28 AM, Follow wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 7 2009 7:51 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>>>>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't >>>>>> > argue >>>>>> > about this.
>>>>>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan >>>>>> > gives a >>>>>> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>>>>>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >>>>>> reason >>>>>> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get >>>>>> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts >>>>>> the >>>>>> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no >>>>>> one. >>>>>> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long >>>>>> as >>>>>> it >>>>>> proves he isn't wrong.
>>>>>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
>>>>> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the rest >>>>> of >>>>> RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them. >>>>Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about >>>>this >>>>for a second and a half will agree with me.
>>> Yet ANOTHER Beldinism. >>Turbo, how big a pot is it, if it's 450, with a 150 decision to you, and >>you >>call? >>If you say 600, you're correct.
> Before you make your playing decision, the pot is 450. > It seems to me that your playing decision should be made on the basis > of the 450 that is actually in the pot.
Then you're an idiot. The decision is between calling and raising. AND, shithead, that's what the question I ASKED you said. IF you call, how big is the pot?
> The pot is only 600 AFTER you make your decision. > Maybe you're talking some kind of "implied odds" thingie?
> My knowledge of NL poker is even more piteous than my knowledge of > LLHE.
> I was just getting marginally incompetent at playing LLHE, when the > big TV poker thing took off. > I'm still pissed that nobody talks about Limit any more.
>>If you raise all in with the best hand instead, how big of a pot are you >>protecting with your raise. >>If you say 600, that's my point. >>If you say 450, explain why. >>If you can't, see above.
> So you see, I am the last person around here who should be making > judgments about playing poker.
> I only commented because it fits your pattern of arguing that you are > right, despite being told by 3 or more people that you are wrong.
>>>>>"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1clgs6xhq7.ln2@recgroups.com... >>>>>> On Nov 7 2009 10:28 AM, Follow wrote:
>>>>>>> On Nov 7 2009 7:51 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>>>>>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't >>>>>>> > argue >>>>>>> > about this.
>>>>>>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan >>>>>>> > gives a >>>>>>> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>>>>>>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >>>>>>> reason >>>>>>> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to get >>>>>>> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no >>>>>>> one. >>>>>>> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as long >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> proves he isn't wrong.
>>>>>>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
>>>>>> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the rest >>>>>> of >>>>>> RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them. >>>>>Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about >>>>>this >>>>>for a second and a half will agree with me.
>>>> Yet ANOTHER Beldinism. >>>Turbo, how big a pot is it, if it's 450, with a 150 decision to you, and >>>you >>>call? >>>If you say 600, you're correct.
>> Before you make your playing decision, the pot is 450. >> It seems to me that your playing decision should be made on the basis >> of the 450 that is actually in the pot. >Then you're an idiot. >The decision is between calling and raising. >AND, shithead, that's what the question I ASKED you said. >IF you call, how big is the pot?
Yes fucknozzle, that is the question you asked. You were fishing for the 600 number so you could claim a victory. You're a tricky boy.
Unfortunately for you, it still doesn't address the original mistake you made that started this whole kerfuffle.
-------------------------------------------------------------------- Beldin Said: "Raising all in way ahead into a 600 chip pot is a fine play. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course, you didn't raise into a 600 chip pot, you actually raised into a 450 chip pot.
>> The pot is only 600 AFTER you make your decision. >> Maybe you're talking some kind of "implied odds" thingie? >No, fuckhead. >The pot is 600 as soon as you call.
>> Is there even such a thing in NL poker?
>> My knowledge of NL poker is even more piteous than my knowledge of >> LLHE.
>> I was just getting marginally incompetent at playing LLHE, when the >> big TV poker thing took off. >> I'm still pissed that nobody talks about Limit any more.
>>>If you raise all in with the best hand instead, how big of a pot are you >>>protecting with your raise. >>>If you say 600, that's my point. >>>If you say 450, explain why. >>>If you can't, see above.
>> So you see, I am the last person around here who should be making >> judgments about playing poker.
>> I only commented because it fits your pattern of arguing that you are >> right, despite being told by 3 or more people that you are wrong. >And also BEING right, and proving it.
Humph. Here I go trying to butt out of this argument gracefully.
Could you leave well enough alone? But, NOOO You had to get in the last word, didn't you?
Vintage Beldinism
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - You've done this sort of thing before, your appeal for consideration is rejected. Feel the consquences and wrath backlash of your own, past snarky actions. Travel A - 5/25/09
>>>>>>"Raider Fan" <raidersgotscrew...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:1clgs6xhq7.ln2@recgroups.com... >>>>>>> On Nov 7 2009 10:28 AM, Follow wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 7 2009 7:51 AM, Raider Fan wrote:
>>>>>>>> > The pot has 450 chips before you act. That is the pot. I won't >>>>>>>> > argue >>>>>>>> > about this.
>>>>>>>> > "This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all >>>>>>>> > Raiderfan >>>>>>>> > gives a >>>>>>>> > fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
>>>>>>>> When a guy is making a pot of 450 to a pot of 600 and won't for any >>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>> at all admit that he misspoke, you know that you're not going to >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> anywhere with him, Raider. There is no one in the world who counts >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> pot after their own call with chips they haven't committed yet, no >>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>> But Beldin loves to redefine scenarios and math to his whim, as >>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> proves he isn't wrong.
>>>>>>>> These are the reasons I love reading Beldin so much.
>>>>>>> Sometimes he's so wrong it's worth starting a new thread for the >>>>>>> rest >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> RGP that has him killfiled. This is one of them. >>>>>>Raider, you're wrong, AND you're retarded, and ANYONE who thinks about >>>>>>this >>>>>>for a second and a half will agree with me.
>>>>> Yet ANOTHER Beldinism. >>>>Turbo, how big a pot is it, if it's 450, with a 150 decision to you, and >>>>you >>>>call? >>>>If you say 600, you're correct.
>>> Before you make your playing decision, the pot is 450. >>> It seems to me that your playing decision should be made on the basis >>> of the 450 that is actually in the pot. >>Then you're an idiot. >>The decision is between calling and raising. >>AND, shithead, that's what the question I ASKED you said. >>IF you call, how big is the pot?
> Yes fucknozzle, that is the question you asked. > You were fishing for the 600 number so you could claim a victory. > You're a tricky boy.
Not in the slightest. I'm leading people by the nose because they're not getting the answer that should be obvious.
> Unfortunately for you, it still doesn't address the original mistake > you made that started this whole kerfuffle.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Beldin Said: > "Raising all in way ahead into a 600 chip pot is a fine play. > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Of course, you didn't raise into a 600 chip pot, you actually raised > into a 450 chip pot.
No. Not even close. The call makes it 600. The raise all in is what's in excess of the call.
> Sophistry can take you only so far.
And alas, stupdity seems to be taking you way into the deep end of the abyss
>>> The pot is only 600 AFTER you make your decision. >>> Maybe you're talking some kind of "implied odds" thingie? >>No, fuckhead. >>The pot is 600 as soon as you call.
>>> Is there even such a thing in NL poker?
>>> My knowledge of NL poker is even more piteous than my knowledge of >>> LLHE.
>>> I was just getting marginally incompetent at playing LLHE, when the >>> big TV poker thing took off. >>> I'm still pissed that nobody talks about Limit any more.
>>>>If you raise all in with the best hand instead, how big of a pot are you >>>>protecting with your raise. >>>>If you say 600, that's my point. >>>>If you say 450, explain why. >>>>If you can't, see above.
>>> So you see, I am the last person around here who should be making >>> judgments about playing poker.
>>> I only commented because it fits your pattern of arguing that you are >>> right, despite being told by 3 or more people that you are wrong.
>>And also BEING right, and proving it.
> Humph. > Here I go trying to butt out of this argument gracefully.
> Could you leave well enough alone?
Shit, you didn't have to respond to the post to begin with.
> But, NOOO > You had to get in the last word, didn't you?
No, shithead. I had to get in the last word because it was needed to CORRECT you. If you got the RIGHT answer....
> > MIND POINTING OUT WHO HAD A "DOUBLE GUT ' SHOT STRAIGHT DRAW ?
> I have no idea what the real term for this is, but I have heard it > called super open-ended. In that the top end of the draw makes a higher > straight than other open enders.
MAYBE YOU GOT A MERIT BADGE IN 'SUPER OPENENDERS"?
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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