On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:43:36 -0500, John Rogers wrote... > Hey, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4l...@gmail.com>... keep > the change, you filthy animal.
> >On Nov 1, 3:30 pm, John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you filthy > >> animal.
> >> >against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or so), > >> >young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a 46.8 rating.
> >> >Whee!
> >> Million dollar arm.
> >> Ten cent brain.
> >> John M. Rogers > >> AU Class of 1985 > >> The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
> >Dude - this is a Stafford thread - not a Cutler thread.
> On Nov 2, 11:30 am, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: >> John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote >> innews:0gvre5p0b76tq44b3qm66itkpc > r8ph5...@4ax.com:
>> > Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you >> > filthy animal.
>> >>against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or so), >> >>young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a 46.8 >> >>rating.
>> >>Whee!
>> > Million dollar arm.
>> > Ten cent brain.
>> Well in this case more like million dollar arm, ten cent receivers.
>> In the 14/33 there were at least 6 bad dropped passes.
>> -- >> Aaron
> hey I tried that argument for years in the Joey Harrington threads and > it didn't get any headway.
Well... except Harrington was a 50 cent arm with 10 cent receivers.
> On Nov 2, 1:30 pm, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: >> John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote >> innews:0gvre5p0b76tq44b3qm66itkpc > r8ph5...@4ax.com:
>> > Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you >> > filthy animal.
>> >>against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or so), >> >>young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a 46.8 >> >>rating.
>> >>Whee!
>> > Million dollar arm.
>> > Ten cent brain.
>> Well in this case more like million dollar arm, ten cent receivers.
>> In the 14/33 there were at least 6 bad dropped passes.
> They cannot be worse than Cutler's receivers.
They were thrown to 14 times. They caught two passes. They had 6 drops.
Lions starting receivers vs. Rams:
Bryant Johnson - 18 catches/241 yards/1 td Dennis Northcutt - 17 catches/161 yards/1 td
> > On Nov 2, 1:30 pm, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: > >> John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote > >> innews:0gvre5p0b76tq44b3qm66itkpc > > r8ph5...@4ax.com:
> >> > Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you > >> > filthy animal.
> >> >>against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or so), > >> >>young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a 46.8 > >> >>rating.
> >> >>Whee!
> >> > Million dollar arm.
> >> > Ten cent brain.
> >> Well in this case more like million dollar arm, ten cent receivers.
> >> In the 14/33 there were at least 6 bad dropped passes.
> > They cannot be worse than Cutler's receivers.
> They were thrown to 14 times. They caught two passes. They had 6 drops.
> Lions starting receivers vs. Rams:
> Bryant Johnson - 18 catches/241 yards/1 td > Dennis Northcutt - 17 catches/161 yards/1 td
To me, that shows how good a quarterback Cutler really is. Devin Hester is a bad cornerback turned below average receiver. Earl Bennett is just not very good. I am sure Johnson and Northcutt aren't much either, but I think if you reverse the receivers, the reception numbers change as well.
> On Nov 2, 4:00 pm, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: >> "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote >> innews:8eec3519-4f26-47 > b0-a2af-c700e5820...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>> > On Nov 2, 1:30 pm, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: >> >> John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote >> >> innews:0gvre5p0b76tq44b3qm66itkpc >> > r8ph5...@4ax.com:
>> >> > Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you >> >> > filthy animal.
>> >> >>against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or >> >> >>so), young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a >> >> >>46.8 rating.
>> >> >>Whee!
>> >> > Million dollar arm.
>> >> > Ten cent brain.
>> >> Well in this case more like million dollar arm, ten cent >> >> receivers.
>> >> In the 14/33 there were at least 6 bad dropped passes.
>> > They cannot be worse than Cutler's receivers.
>> They were thrown to 14 times. They caught two passes. They had 6 >> drops.
>> Lions starting receivers vs. Rams:
>> Bryant Johnson - 18 catches/241 yards/1 td >> Dennis Northcutt - 17 catches/161 yards/1 td
> To me, that shows how good a quarterback Cutler really is. Devin > Hester is a bad cornerback turned below average receiver. Earl > Bennett is just not very good. I am sure Johnson and Northcutt aren't > much either, but I think if you reverse the receivers, the reception > numbers change as well.
I don't. I'd swap Hester and Bennett for JOhnson and Northcutt in a second.
Bryant Johnson MIGHT be an acceptable third receiver. Dennis Northcutt is horrible.
Outside Calvin Johnson (who is hurt) - Detroit has the worst group of receivers in the NFL.
That isn't to say Stafford has played well, but his receivers are hideous.
> > On Nov 2, 4:00 pm, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: > >> "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote > >> innews:8eec3519-4f26-47 > > b0-a2af-c700e5820...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
> >> > On Nov 2, 1:30 pm, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote: > >> >> John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote > >> >> innews:0gvre5p0b76tq44b3qm66itkpc > >> > r8ph5...@4ax.com:
> >> >> > Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you > >> >> > filthy animal.
> >> >> >>against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or > >> >> >>so), young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a > >> >> >>46.8 rating.
> >> >> >>Whee!
> >> >> > Million dollar arm.
> >> >> > Ten cent brain.
> >> >> Well in this case more like million dollar arm, ten cent > >> >> receivers.
> >> >> In the 14/33 there were at least 6 bad dropped passes.
> >> > They cannot be worse than Cutler's receivers.
> >> They were thrown to 14 times. They caught two passes. They had 6 > >> drops.
> >> Lions starting receivers vs. Rams:
> >> Bryant Johnson - 18 catches/241 yards/1 td > >> Dennis Northcutt - 17 catches/161 yards/1 td
> > To me, that shows how good a quarterback Cutler really is. Devin > > Hester is a bad cornerback turned below average receiver. Earl > > Bennett is just not very good. I am sure Johnson and Northcutt aren't > > much either, but I think if you reverse the receivers, the reception > > numbers change as well.
> I don't. I'd swap Hester and Bennett for JOhnson and Northcutt in a > second.
> Bryant Johnson MIGHT be an acceptable third receiver. Dennis Northcutt is > horrible.
> Outside Calvin Johnson (who is hurt) - Detroit has the worst group of > receivers in the NFL.
> That isn't to say Stafford has played well, but his receivers are > hideous.
cutler is good now, stafford will be good in a bit....both are qb's any team will want to have a couple years from now.........
cj is a stud, but of course he is hurt. Other than him, both teams have trash I wouldn't run on the field in an arena league game......the fact that devin hester(an undersized reciever who cant run routes and appears to not know what back shoulder is) is the #1 reciever on any team is downright scary.......
but personnel changes...recievers change....ol's change.......in a couple years if the right changes are made both cutler and stafford will be good nfl qb's....no question.
On Nov 1, 4:30 pm, John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you filthy > animal.
> >against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or so), > >young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a 46.8 rating.
> >Whee!
> Million dollar arm.
> Ten cent brain.
you've been proven wrong on this several times.....if stafford fails as an nfl qb, it won't be because of his brain. By all objective accounts, he is very bright.
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:43:36 -0500, John Rogers wrote... > > Hey, "The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4l...@gmail.com>... keep > > the change, you filthy animal.
> > >On Nov 1, 3:30 pm, John Rogers <tiger7...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Hey, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com>... keep the change, you filthy > > >> animal.
> > >> >against the 0-7 St. Louis Rams (winless for the next minute or so), > > >> >young Stafford went 14 for 33, 168 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT, a 46.8 rating.
> > >> >Whee!
> > >> Million dollar arm.
> > >> Ten cent brain.
> > >> John M. Rogers > > >> AU Class of 1985 > > >> The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
> > >Dude - this is a Stafford thread - not a Cutler thread.
> > Jay Cutler's arm is more of a $875,250 arm.
> Plusteth, he went to Vandy... I doubt he's dumn.
ummmmm.....maybe he's smart and maybe he is dumn....but in making that assumption you apparently dont know much about vanderbilt and football/ basketball scholarships......
On Nov 3, 1:05 pm, mianderson <mianderso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you've been proven wrong on this several times.....if stafford fails > as an nfl qb, it won't be because of his brain. By all objective > accounts, he is very bright.
But he's made the two biggest mistakes already ... coming out early and signing with the Lions.
If he is to be successful, he needs to get out of Detroit and under a competent tutor who will bring him along properly.
Otherwise, he'll be repeatedly beaten up and have virtually no success to show for it.
Not much different than what was purported when he was drafted, not much different than what has transpired.
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:05:00 -0800 (PST), mianderson wrote... > you've been proven wrong on this several times..
...not by Matthew 'The Human Turnover' Stafford, he hasn't.
> ...if stafford fails > as an nfl qb, it won't be because of his brain. By all objective > accounts, he is very bright.
There's booksmarts and then there's football smarts. Stafford may be book smart, but his football smarts aren't NFL-caliber. In this way, you could say that he's similar to a guy who was booksmart enough to muddle through undergraduate work with a C average, then work/cheat his way through medical school, but who clearly has no common sense at all.
On Nov 3, 4:40 pm, Anthony Summers <summerstorm0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:05:00 -0800 (PST), mianderson wrote... > > you've been proven wrong on this several times..
> ...not by Matthew 'The Human Turnover' Stafford, he hasn't.
> > ...if stafford fails > > as an nfl qb, it won't be because of his brain. By all objective > > accounts, he is very bright.
> There's booksmarts and then there's football smarts. Stafford may be > book smart, but his football smarts aren't NFL-caliber. In this way, > you could say that he's similar to a guy who was booksmart enough to > muddle through undergraduate work with a C average, then work/cheat his > way through medical school, but who clearly has no common sense at all.
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