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J.C. Watts Enslin  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 2:21 pm
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:21:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 2:21 pm
Subject: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
So the NCAA created a bracket, but didn't actually create any seeds.

http://www.d3boards.com/playoffs/footballbracket2009.pdf

In theory this means that the decision to host is done on a week-to-
week basis, but in actuality teams are still placed where there would
have previously have been seeds.

Apparently the reason why they made this decision is because they
don't want to make a decision about who would host a potential semi-
final between UWW and St. John's.  St. John's should be the host based
upon the NCAA's own criteria of "regional strength of schedule"
because their conference is stronger this year.  These ratings do not
count games against NAIA teams...of which UWW had two.

It also doesn't take into consideration MOV - and UWW and SJC have two
common opponents.  St. Johns beat both at home by less than a TD.  UWW
beat both by 20+...one on the road.  Therefore the "eye test" says UWW
is the better team.

And the NCAA's response?  Bascially "deal with it."

Jon


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Chris Mihos  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 2:35 pm
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From: Chris Mihos <cmi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:35:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
On Nov 20, 8:21 am, "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@charter.net> wrote:

Eh this is a meaningless argument in the end. Case is gonna run
through the playoffs like a big slobberin' old dog. PHEAR THE
SLIDERULEZ!

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JGibson  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 2:45 pm
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From: JGibson <james.m.gib...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:45:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
On Nov 20, 8:35 am, Chris Mihos <cmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I've got to root for Cal Lutheran out of conference loyalty.  Go
SCIAC!

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McMahone  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 3:25 pm
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From: McMahone <mmcmah...@umhb.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:25:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
On Nov 20, 7:21 am, "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@charter.net> wrote:

Doesn't matter.   The Johnies aren't going to make the semi-final
anyway.

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J.C. Watts Enslin  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 3:35 pm
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From: "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:35:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
On Nov 20, 8:25 am, McMahone <mmcmah...@umhb.edu> wrote:

I don't think so either.

And our athletic director said that we'd beat them up there anyway.

Jon


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Tonawanda Kardex  
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 More options Nov 20 2009, 8:17 pm
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From: Tonawanda Kardex <tonawandakar...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:17:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 20 2009 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
On Nov 20, 5:21 am, "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@charter.net> wrote:

And the BCS gang will point to this as a reason why the NCAA can't be
trusted with an FBS tournament.

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That Don Guy  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 2:27 am
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From: That Don Guy <del_grande_n...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:27:16 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 2:27 am
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs

And yet, those same BCS schools have no problem with the NCAA handling
a Division I basketball tournament despite the fact that the Division
III tournament has the same "geographic-based bracket".

Remember, if the NCAA creates a tournament, the BCS schools can't
break away and have their own tournament (I believe it's called the
"Marquette Rule," after Marquette turned down an NCAA basketball
tournament bid somewhere around 1970, I think, and entered the NIT
instead).

-- Don
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Jaybyrd  
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 More options Nov 21 2009, 4:38 am
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From: Jaybyrd <jaybyrdb...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:38:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 21 2009 4:38 am
Subject: Re: Controversy in DIII Playoffs
On Nov 20, 8:35 am, Chris Mihos <cmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Go Prezidents!   However mt union will probably advance.

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