> > > > > ummm....I don't think baylor is particularly concerned. They are > > > > > clearly not all that interested in building a quality football > > > > > program, so why do they care if nebraska or OU or texas or whatever > > > > > fans buy tickets to their games? That's better than nobody doing > > > > > it.......
> > > > You used to post thoughtful college football analysis...it's > > > > unfortunate that you can't step out of character long enough to do > > > > that anymore. Baylor cares about football...don't be stupid.
> > > but where is the evidence? I obviously dont know the details of their > > > ad, but it doesn't look like(just from parts of the game I saw a few > > > weeks ago on fsn) that they poured a lot of money into their > > > stadium.......dont know about the facilities. If there were any > > > baylor fans in existence Im sure they could contribute.
> > > To me I think baylor and and just associate them with vanderbilt and > > > duke....ie programs who claim they are "trying" but are really > > > not......
> > Oh those schools, like Northwestern, care about football. It's just > > that those schools don't have the fanbase to support their programs > > like the big, public schools do. My guess is that the average Texan > > who didn't go to college is probably a fan of Texas..maybe A&M or > > Tech...but very likely not Baylor. Furthermore, since schools like > > Duke and Vanderbilt draw kids from all over the country, and go > > elsewhere upon graduation, it's not as those they have a local alumni > > base to attend a lot of the games.
> Yes...and Baylor is not just a private school, but also a religious > school where out of staters send their kids so they don't drink and > kill cats (oops) while they're away at college....
I dont get that vibe at all from baylor........it's more like an emory or rice type of place......people who want to shelter intelligent 18 tear olds sure as hell dont send them to a college like baylor
> > > > > > ummm....I don't think baylor is particularly concerned. They are > > > > > > clearly not all that interested in building a quality football > > > > > > program, so why do they care if nebraska or OU or texas or whatever > > > > > > fans buy tickets to their games? That's better than nobody doing > > > > > > it.......
> > > > > You used to post thoughtful college football analysis...it's > > > > > unfortunate that you can't step out of character long enough to do > > > > > that anymore. Baylor cares about football...don't be stupid.
> > > > but where is the evidence? I obviously dont know the details of their > > > > ad, but it doesn't look like(just from parts of the game I saw a few > > > > weeks ago on fsn) that they poured a lot of money into their > > > > stadium.......dont know about the facilities. If there were any > > > > baylor fans in existence Im sure they could contribute.
> > > > To me I think baylor and and just associate them with vanderbilt and > > > > duke....ie programs who claim they are "trying" but are really > > > > not......
> > > Oh those schools, like Northwestern, care about football. It's just > > > that those schools don't have the fanbase to support their programs > > > like the big, public schools do. My guess is that the average Texan > > > who didn't go to college is probably a fan of Texas..maybe A&M or > > > Tech...but very likely not Baylor. Furthermore, since schools like > > > Duke and Vanderbilt draw kids from all over the country, and go > > > elsewhere upon graduation, it's not as those they have a local alumni > > > base to attend a lot of the games.
> > Yes...and Baylor is not just a private school, but also a religious > > school where out of staters send their kids so they don't drink and > > kill cats (oops) while they're away at college....
> I dont get that vibe at all from baylor........it's more like an emory > or rice type of place......people who want to shelter intelligent 18 > tear olds sure as hell dont send them to a college like baylor
Huh? It is a Baptist university. They don't even have co-ed dorms.
> > > > > > ummm....I don't think baylor is particularly concerned. They are > > > > > > clearly not all that interested in building a quality football > > > > > > program, so why do they care if nebraska or OU or texas or whatever > > > > > > fans buy tickets to their games? That's better than nobody doing > > > > > > it.......
> > > > > You used to post thoughtful college football analysis...it's > > > > > unfortunate that you can't step out of character long enough to do > > > > > that anymore. Baylor cares about football...don't be stupid.
> > > > but where is the evidence? I obviously dont know the details of their > > > > ad, but it doesn't look like(just from parts of the game I saw a few > > > > weeks ago on fsn) that they poured a lot of money into their > > > > stadium.......dont know about the facilities. If there were any > > > > baylor fans in existence Im sure they could contribute.
> > > > To me I think baylor and and just associate them with vanderbilt and > > > > duke....ie programs who claim they are "trying" but are really > > > > not......
> > > Oh those schools, like Northwestern, care about football. It's just > > > that those schools don't have the fanbase to support their programs > > > like the big, public schools do. My guess is that the average Texan > > > who didn't go to college is probably a fan of Texas..maybe A&M or > > > Tech...but very likely not Baylor. Furthermore, since schools like > > > Duke and Vanderbilt draw kids from all over the country, and go > > > elsewhere upon graduation, it's not as those they have a local alumni > > > base to attend a lot of the games.
> > Yes...and Baylor is not just a private school, but also a religious > > school where out of staters send their kids so they don't drink and > > kill cats (oops) while they're away at college....
> I dont get that vibe at all from baylor........it's more like an emory > or rice type of place......people who want to shelter intelligent 18 > tear olds sure as hell dont send them to a college like baylor
Yeah sure...strict Baptist families would never send their kids off to a Baptist college.
> On Nov 3, 4:05 pm, mianderson <clay...@excite.com> wrote: >> On Nov 3, 2:11 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 3, 8:07 am, mianderson <mianderso...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Nov 2, 11:32 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii135/brohrer28/baylor.jpg >>>> ummm....I don't think baylor is particularly concerned. They are >>>> clearly not all that interested in building a quality football >>>> program, so why do they care if nebraska or OU or texas or whatever >>>> fans buy tickets to their games? That's better than nobody doing >>>> it....... >>> You used to post thoughtful college football analysis...it's >>> unfortunate that you can't step out of character long enough to do >>> that anymore. Baylor cares about football...don't be stupid. >> but where is the evidence? I obviously dont know the details of their >> ad, but it doesn't look like(just from parts of the game I saw a few >> weeks ago on fsn) that they poured a lot of money into their >> stadium.......dont know about the facilities. If there were any >> baylor fans in existence Im sure they could contribute.
>> To me I think baylor and and just associate them with vanderbilt and >> duke....ie programs who claim they are "trying" but are really >> not......
> Oh those schools, like Northwestern, care about football. It's just > that those schools don't have the fanbase to support their programs > like the big, public schools do. My guess is that the average Texan > who didn't go to college is probably a fan of Texas..maybe A&M or > Tech...but very likely not Baylor.
> On Nov 3, 5:45 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Nov 3, 4:14 pm, "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jonens...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> On Nov 3, 4:05 pm, mianderson <clay...@excite.com> wrote: >>>> On Nov 3, 2:11 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On Nov 3, 8:07 am, mianderson <mianderso...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Nov 2, 11:32 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii135/brohrer28/baylor.jpg >>>>>> ummm....I don't think baylor is particularly concerned. They are >>>>>> clearly not all that interested in building a quality football >>>>>> program, so why do they care if nebraska or OU or texas or whatever >>>>>> fans buy tickets to their games? That's better than nobody doing >>>>>> it....... >>>>> You used to post thoughtful college football analysis...it's >>>>> unfortunate that you can't step out of character long enough to do >>>>> that anymore. Baylor cares about football...don't be stupid. >>>> but where is the evidence? I obviously dont know the details of their >>>> ad, but it doesn't look like(just from parts of the game I saw a few >>>> weeks ago on fsn) that they poured a lot of money into their >>>> stadium.......dont know about the facilities. If there were any >>>> baylor fans in existence Im sure they could contribute. >>>> To me I think baylor and and just associate them with vanderbilt and >>>> duke....ie programs who claim they are "trying" but are really >>>> not...... >>> Oh those schools, like Northwestern, care about football. It's just >>> that those schools don't have the fanbase to support their programs >>> like the big, public schools do. My guess is that the average Texan >>> who didn't go to college is probably a fan of Texas..maybe A&M or >>> Tech...but very likely not Baylor. Furthermore, since schools like >>> Duke and Vanderbilt draw kids from all over the country, and go >>> elsewhere upon graduation, it's not as those they have a local alumni >>> base to attend a lot of the games. >> Yes...and Baylor is not just a private school, but also a religious >> school where out of staters send their kids so they don't drink and >> kill cats (oops) while they're away at college....
> I dont get that vibe at all from baylor........it's more like an emory > or rice type of place......people who want to shelter intelligent 18 > tear olds sure as hell dont send them to a college like baylor
You know about as much about Baylor as you do about football.
> > > ummm....I don't think baylor is particularly concerned. They are > > > clearly not all that interested in building a quality football > > > program, so why do they care if nebraska or OU or texas or whatever > > > fans buy tickets to their games? That's better than nobody doing > > > it.......
> > You used to post thoughtful college football analysis...it's > > unfortunate that you can't step out of character long enough to do > > that anymore. Baylor cares about football...don't be stupid.
> but where is the evidence? I obviously dont know the details of their > ad, but it doesn't look like(just from parts of the game I saw a few > weeks ago on fsn) that they poured a lot of money into their > stadium.......dont know about the facilities. If there were any > baylor fans in existence Im sure they could contribute.
> To me I think baylor and and just associate them with vanderbilt and > duke....ie programs who claim they are "trying" but are really > not......
> I mean yeah they have a jitterbug qb(hurt this year) who could develop > into a randle el type, but in the wrong system what does that ever > become? I mean didn't randle el(because of the system and the > surrounding talent) take IU to a 5-6 win season in his "best" > season......
This is the kind of crap that fans of teams that have always competed like to say to fans of teams that have never competed. Try rooting for a team that wins 3 games a year and see how many away games you make it to.
In article <73b3dc09-a193-4234-ad96-72aae24b1...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
McMahone <mmcmah...@umhb.edu> wrote: > On Nov 2, 10:32 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That got quite a bit of play on the local sports radio. There's some > truth to what he says, but 15 years of disaster isn't going to create > a loyal fan base. And this year added the disappointment factor-- > people began to believe that this might be the year Baylor turned the > corner, but they aren't the same team without Griffin.
> Ultimately, the stands are going to be empty when people don't think > you have a chance to win. I suspect that would eventually even be > true anywhere.
Columbia Lions fans are an exception. They show up for every home game, even during a 44 game losing streak from 1983 to 1988.
> On Nov 3, 3:42 pm, JGibson <james.m.gib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Nov 3, 3:29 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
> > > Dan Bretta wrote, On 11/3/09 1:14 PM:
> > > > On Nov 3, 1:12 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote: > > > >> J.C. Watts Enslin wrote, On 11/3/09 1:05 PM:
> > > >>> Baylor is just in the wrong conference. > > > >>> They should either be in the MWC or CUSA. > > > >> That would be true if football were the only sport, but > > > >> Baylor is pretty competitive at just about everything else.
> > > > True enough, but without intervention from your then governor Baylor > > > > prolly doesn't get a sniff from the Big XII.
> > > It wasn't Ann. It was Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock.
> > > Besides, the number always had to be four. What kind of idiot > > > would set up an 11-team conference?
> > One holding out for a powerful independent.
> Or one too bound by the tradition and the niceties of the past and not > looking forward enough to realize that playing night games, games > after Thanksgiving, and a conference championship game would help > everyone in the long run.
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