> "Mhoram" <S...@WGW.NET> wrote in message
> news:hcrdf6$m89$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> "TMS" <nwophoe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5160898b-64ec-40e9-8a8e-84808aa21b6a@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>I think its important to remind everyone that...

>>> http://www.galvestoneconomicreport.com/Pics/NewsweekSocialists.jpg

>>> - TMS

>> I'd like to remind everyone that we are *way* closer to a socialist
>> economic system than a true laissez-faire capitalism.  The America that
>> we are supposed to love-or-leave has been predominately socialist since
>> everyone (gryphon mostly) has been alive.

>> Medicare
>> Medicaid
>> pretty much any non-defense/road tax
>> Social Security
>> Earned income
>> schools
>> fire departments
>> police departments
>> public utilities
>> parks
>> bailouts
>> anti-trust legislation
>> public housing
>> public transportation
>> EMTALA
>> price-fixing in the guise of farming subsidies
>> school lunches
>> free clinics
>> etc...

>> The simple fact is that a very significant portion of your income
>> (punishing productivity - very American) is taken from you and given to
>> others.  Sure, most is in the guise of 'public good' and even if you
>> don't have kids those school taxes probably keep some of the ingrates in
>> school or on the field and not robbing your house but you don't have a
>> choice. But to even suggest that America is a capitalist nation (some
>> elements sure but probably not even the majority) is absurd.

> to suggest that you are using the correct definition of "capitalist" would
> be more absurd, but no one here is tom-fool enough to do that.