While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be found).
I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > found).
> I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
On Nov 4, 4:40 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> drpao,
> first of all, congrats to your daughter for this wonderful > achievement. this is a step forward for all lao.
> i see that there have been some changes in your life. i miss the good > old time. life goes on.
Thanks... Casalao. As an old wise gentleman used to tell me, you are a real achiever if you can at least replicate yourself in your life time - so at least I have done that!\
Life goes on... but as you have said, each day will be different and it is a matter of how we use the time that is given to us: use it, waste it or just watch it to goes by. Life is but memory and those memory cost time, money and guts. Also as before we passed on, we have to at least cause some ripple in the water or make some lasting effect in this world that we live in to benefit others... hence, we need to have a set collection of convictions that will guide us to live each moment, not only for the good memory for ourselves but for the betterment of others as well at the same time. So... Casalao, you may have noted that there have been changes in my life, that would be an understatement... there has been tiny changed, and they will be more changes as life goes on...
> While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > found).
> I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> DU
Dr. Pao,
Kuv tsi tau ntsib koj thiab nrog koj tham dua. Tabsis raws li kuv sov ntsuam thiab pom mas zoo li koj muaj kev ntseeg luag tog liab heev. Tej zaum koj kuj yuav muaj kev phoojywg zoo heev rau luag. Kuv saib mas koj yeej muaj peevxwm thiab plees kawg. Tabsis kuv kuj nrog koj rhiab tav heev nawb. Nyaj koj yuav ceev ceev faj koj tus kheej lawm.
> On Nov 3, 9:12 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> > While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > > found).
> > I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> > My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> > DU
> Dr. Pao,
> Kuv tsi tau ntsib koj thiab nrog koj tham dua. Tabsis raws li kuv sov > ntsuam thiab pom mas zoo li koj muaj kev ntseeg luag tog liab heev. > Tej zaum koj kuj yuav muaj kev phoojywg zoo heev rau luag. Kuv saib > mas koj yeej muaj peevxwm thiab plees kawg. Tabsis kuv kuj nrog koj > rhiab tav heev nawb. Nyaj koj yuav ceev ceev faj koj tus kheej lawm.
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Kuv twb yeej hais los lawm ib zaug tias dr. pao zoo li tus dab muaj ob lub taub hau no nev. Txawm li cas los xwj nyias muaj nyias lub hom phiaj, yog teeb tau lawm kav tsij ua mus kom kawg.
> On Nov 4, 5:38 pm, dekfangkhong <dekfangkh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 9:12 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> > > While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > > > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > > > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > > > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > > > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > > > found).
> > > I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > > > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > > > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > > > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> > > My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > > > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > > > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > > > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > > > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > > > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > > > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > > > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> > > DU
> > Dr. Pao,
> > Kuv tsi tau ntsib koj thiab nrog koj tham dua. Tabsis raws li kuv sov > > ntsuam thiab pom mas zoo li koj muaj kev ntseeg luag tog liab heev. > > Tej zaum koj kuj yuav muaj kev phoojywg zoo heev rau luag. Kuv saib > > mas koj yeej muaj peevxwm thiab plees kawg. Tabsis kuv kuj nrog koj > > rhiab tav heev nawb. Nyaj koj yuav ceev ceev faj koj tus kheej lawm.
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> Kuv twb yeej hais los lawm ib zaug tias dr. pao zoo li tus dab muaj ob > lub taub hau no nev. Txawm li cas los xwj nyias muaj nyias lub hom > phiaj, yog teeb tau lawm kav tsij ua mus kom kawg.- Hide quoted text -
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Dr. Pao yog ib tus international individual. Nws yuav mus qhov twg los tau. Vim nws tsis tsim yeeb ncuab nrog leej twg. Good for him. Thank you for sharing the lovely pictures, especially that of Mr. Leuame Insisienmay, the fomer Minister of Education of the old regime. YingB
Congratulations on your daughter's degree graduation and wish her to have more successful life
I think you had a wonderful trip to Laos this time as it was very quiet visit not like another one in 2006 That's why you said a "short visit" and interesting there was no any official meeting for this visit Btw, you have been honoured by having a short lunch with the new foreign ministry spokesman
Anyway, thank you for your mention of DKJ in the topic
sorry i was surprised when seeing than leuam insixiengmay pix. he is soukaphab khemkheng. i think from his generation are not many with us. wishing him many many moons ayou manh khuanh nheun.
> On Nov 3, 9:12 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> > While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > > found).
> > I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> > My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> > DU
> Dr. Pao,
> Kuv tsi tau ntsib koj thiab nrog koj tham dua. Tabsis raws li kuv sov > ntsuam thiab pom mas zoo li koj muaj kev ntseeg luag tog liab heev. > Tej zaum koj kuj yuav muaj kev phoojywg zoo heev rau luag. Kuv saib > mas koj yeej muaj peevxwm thiab plees kawg. Tabsis kuv kuj nrog koj > rhiab tav heev nawb. Nyaj koj yuav ceev ceev faj koj tus kheej lawm.
> Ua tsaug.
Nws tsis yog tias leej ntwg muaj kev ntseeg leej twg. Nyob rau lub sijhawm niajhnub no, yeej tsisi muaj leej twg yuav ntseeg tau leej twg - tej zaum, yus tus kheej twb ntseeg tsis tau yus tus kheej lawm thiab kuj muaj.
Qhov tseev ceeb kom yus muaj lub siab dawb plawg, yus ua dabtsuis yuav tsum ua kom tau li yus hais, yus us tsis tau, yus yuav tsum hais kiag tias yus yeej ua tsis tau... Lino, yus yuav tsum us kom hluag sawvdaws saib tau yus ua ib tus neeg li yus ua tau. Qhov ob tuaj, yog yus ua qhov zoo xwb, xav mus rau qhov zoo xwb thiab ua tus neeg siab ncaj ncees, qhib siab lug, yus thiaj yuav ntau tau phoojywg rau nrog sawvdaws. Kev ntau phoojywg yog ib qhov tseemceeb heev. Yog yus ntau tsis tau phoojyoog ces yus yuav ua dabtsi los yuav ua tau nyuab.
Kuv tsis yug ib tug neeg ua kavmoo, ua teb ua chaw tabsi kuv muaj lub siab xav kom peb cov kwvtij neejtsa nyob sab qhub qhab kom muaj cai li ib tus peejxeem Los-Tsuas xwb. Qhov twg tsis ncaj-ncees, kuv yeej hais tawg kiag vim tias nws yeej muaj tseeb - luag los yeej paub yeej pom tib yam. Lino, yus hais qhov twg, luag thiab saib tau yus thiab - tsis yog yus yuav lam tau lam hais.
Kuv mus Laos zaum no yog mus ncig ua si ib pliag xwb, tej hnub kuj muaj caij (if time allowed) mus ntsib tej kwvtij neejtsa, tej phoojywg - sib tham li kev sib mov tshua xwb... raws li nej pom kuv cov photo (more photo to come). Kuv mus qhov twg, kuv yeej muab los qhia thiab share rau sawvdaws tag - tsis muaj qhov twg yuav muab zais cia hau lub siab li lwm tus. Nej sim saib mas, peb muaj cov Hmoob mus Laos ntau caum leej, tabsis yeej tsis muaj leej twg yuav kam los qhia rau sawvdaws kom pom txog lawv kev mus ncig, mus ntsib kwjtij neejtsa thiab phoojywg nyob Laos li!!!
Yog leej twg xav paub txog dabtsi, kom email directly tuaj rau kus tus email: drpao1 at hmoob.net. Tus email post hauv no mas siv tsis tau lawm, tshuas yog siv los post xwb nawj.
> While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > found).
> I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
On Nov 5, 4:08 pm, DKJ <dkj.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Pao,
> Congratulations on your daughter's degree graduation and wish her to > have more successful life
> I think you had a wonderful trip to Laos this time as it was very > quiet visit not like another one in 2006 > That's why you said a "short visit" and interesting there was no any > official meeting for this visit > Btw, you have been honoured by having a short lunch with the new > foreign ministry spokesman
> Anyway, thank you for your mention of DKJ in the topic
> dkj
DKJ et. al.,
Thank you, every one, for your kind word about my daughter graduation. It is indeed another milestone for the second Laonork generation to be able to move on. She was extreme happy and relief that after 6 long years of hard study, the fruit is finally ripened to be enjoy. This girl is very caring as a doctor, she has been working & studying at the Polynesia islands, in India and Nepal and has made 2 trips to the Philippine as part of the Rainbow Plastic Surgery visit to offer free surgery to the poor people in that country. She has tour Europe, America but, fluent in French but not Lao, she missed her placement in Laos as she could not get accommodation and placement in Luangprabang for her elective study.... may be one day she will be there.
As for my trip, it was an enjoyable trip indeed with no official engagement, only visiting few people like Achan Vichit at Thaluang (more photo to come..), HE Khenthong and catch up with few friends( Dr Bounkhuang and Dr Khamphad (the husband of Pany): http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lOGnlLaEWf4/SvFjtdwaKYI/AAAAAAAAA0A/2Q8KyEeCt2M...
> On Nov 3, 9:12 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> > While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > > found).
> > I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> > My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> > DU
It is not that the Hmong are good in study.. but it is only because, they know how hard and how fortunate for each one of them to be able to study where they are... so by working hard, they seem to bypass their laolum friends who are equally capable but probably having an easier life, so less motivation to study.
Anyway, thanks for all your kind words about my daughter achievement.
On Nov 5, 4:26 pm, mosp <mosph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Pao,
> Congratulations on your daughter's graduation !
> sorry i was surprised when seeing than leuam insixiengmay pix. > he is soukaphab khemkheng. i think from his generation are not many > with us. wishing him many many moons ayou manh khuanh nheun.
> mosp
Yeah... Than Leuam Insixiengmay, age over 90+ years old, appears to me to be in good health, body & mind... and in high spirit. I was quite surprise as well because, there are not many people of his generation who are still in that good health and still with us. Unfortunately, that I did not have enough time with him... but with our short visit, i did take few photos and video-record our visit and conversation with him. When I was in France in May 2009, I also met with Pagna Houphan Sayasith (who married to the Insisiengmay and he has completed the Insisiengmay family tree - for your Info) and he is as robust as any one at 82 years of age.
> While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > found).
> I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
> pov es pov, ua caag tsi pum koj tug nam yau naj, pum koj nam hlub xwb > ib plag nam yau chimx ov, peb maam npaaj ib tug tub moob vaaj nyob mad > city tuaj yuav koj tug ntshais og, paab koj zoo sab tsua tug mivnyuag > og, > vmged
> On Nov 3, 11:12 pm, DownUnder <drpao...@dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> > While on a trip to SE Asia, as my Nepal trip was postponed again for > > the 3rd time, I decided to made a quick croc hunting expedition to > > Laos - visiting Vientiane & Savannakhet, to see some families and > > catch-up with few friends... attending the Thatluang festival, the > > ITec Exibitiion - and looking for DKJ (but he is no where to be > > found).
> > I took lots of foto in Vientiane, hoping to catch DKJ taking foto but > > he is no where... I even asked some of the dozen of photographers at > > Thatluang who would ofdfer for a quick souvenir shot for fre 1000's > > kip...and they all said that they were DKJ!!
> > My Nepal trekking was postponed again due to last minute crashed with > > my daughter who would do the trek with me. She has to stay back to > > finish few minor thing at her University...so to finish her course. As > > so, she is as at the 4th November 2009, to become the 1st Hmong girl > > (and the 3rd Hmong medical doctors) to graduate from an OZ University > > with a degree in Medicine, a degree in Surgery and a degree in Medical > > Science (to become a medical doctor). So, she is NOW officially to be > > known as Dr Selena Nkauj Hli Saykao!
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Dr. Pao,
Congratulation to the success of your daughter. Your success is part of ours and the Lao overseas as well.
congratulation to your daughter for her success. wish her luck in life and career. it's hard for me to believe that Hmong "bypass" Laolum in education, either in Oz or here in the usa, since i know lots of Laolum kids have the same success as your daughter as far as education is concerned, only most of them like to stay in low-key and live their life quietly and peacefully as in the "bor-pengyung" mentality in every aspect of life. i think it depends on individual and family, it's hard to say one ethnic is better than the other.
again congratulation to you and your family to have a wonderful Hmong Lao Aussi daughter.
> It is not that the Hmong are good in study.. but it is only because, > they know how hard and how fortunate for each one of them to be able > to study where they are... so by working hard, they seem to bypass > their laolum friends who are equally capable but probably having an > easier life, so less motivation to study.
> Anyway, thanks for all your kind words about my daughter achievement.
Congratulation to your daughter's success and to the Thao Saykao's families, she is a remarkable lady that can set her feet onto her dad foot steps. Wishing her well!
Thanks for sharing those pictures, and I whole heartedly agree with Yingb. Nowadays, we don't take side no more, such that we are trying to enjoy our own life--because life is too short to waste.
Thanks for all your congratulation remark on the occasion of my daughter graduation. I will pass on all ypur kind words to her.
Thanks again.
DU
On Nov 6, 7:07 am, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dr. Pao,
> Congratulation to your daughter's success and to the Thao Saykao's > families, she is a remarkable lady that can set her feet onto her dad > foot steps. Wishing her well!
> Thanks for sharing those pictures, and I whole heartedly agree with > Yingb. Nowadays, we don't take side no more, such that we are trying > to enjoy our own life--because life is too short to waste.
Dr. Pao, maybe you can put to rest once and for all (after your personal meeting with the new and official Lao PDR spokesman) what all the hoopla is all about with the government's on-going propaganda coming out of DKJ and Yong. Afterall, Mr. Khenthong Nouanthasinh is your best friend when he was the Ambassador to Australia.
Dr. Pao, you are full of contradictions. Sadly, in the same ways of Yong Chanthalangsy! Just re-read your contradictory statement!
You said, "As for my trip, it was an enjoyable trip indeed with no official engagement, only visiting few people like Achan Vichit at Thaluang (more photo to come..), HE Khenthong and catch up with few friends (Dr Bounkhuang and Dr Khamphad (the husband of Pany)"
Khenthong may be your friend, but he is also the official national spokesperson of the one-party Hammer and Sickle government run by Lao People's Revolutionary Party.
Dr Khamphad may be your friend, but he is also the husband of the Pany Yathotou, a Politburo Member of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party, the neucleus of that country's one party rule.
It is no wonder extremists on both sides (Yong on the one hand and his critics on the other), have no respect for you. You're a living contradiction unto yourself.
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