Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated knowledge from the impending flood.
Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
About the pyramids: <quote>
Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. </quote>
Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How about that.
Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all rolled into one.
All-Seeing-I wrote: > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> About the pyramids: > <quote>
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > </quote>
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
Most creationist claim that most sedimentary rocks and the fossils that they contain were a result of Noah's flood.
But, if the great Pyramid was built before the flood, then it stands to reason that the materials that it was built from and rock the it sits on and all the rocks below it must be older than the Pyramid. And all the fossils that those rocks contain must also be older as well.
So how you you explain the deposition of all those rocks and fossils prior to the flood if the Great Pyramid was built before the flood?
> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> About the pyramids: > <quote>
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > </quote>
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
All-Seeing-I wrote: > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve > accumulated knowledge from the impending flood.
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> About the pyramids: <quote>
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the > stones were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. > Sadly, in 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs > robbed the pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild > mosques and fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into > smaller pieces and reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions > were removed from them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever > lost.
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up > its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments > rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many > seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly > twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited > in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the > dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not > living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This > evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at > least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood > scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were > clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid > before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were > halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the > present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was > first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. > While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the > stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the > salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These > salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water > level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some > time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its > height.
The sea salt would have been used as part of the building process.
> </quote>
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence.
Carbon dated, no less! So today you accept carbon dating again, until next tinme when it suits you not to? And as for fossils; look up what limestone actually _is_.
How
> about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth > all rolled into one.
So the evidence is essentially something that is not there, because it was destroyed?
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote in <8f5e6a24-f249-44c6-ab13-ba9ee51a5...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> :
>Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's >flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But >who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, >Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes".
Which ancient texts?
>Why did >Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated >knowledge from the impending flood.
According to Genesis Seth died 14 years before Noah was born, and the Flood occurred in Noah's 600th year. How would Seth have known about the Flood?
>Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that >inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's >casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded >that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled >"more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a >European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones >were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in >1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the >pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and >fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and >reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from >them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
No evidence that all of this was at Seth's instigation.
>further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the >Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the >monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its >sides,
This is obviously not the Flood of the Bible.
>and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising >to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells >and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve >thousand years old.
But according to you, everyone knows that carbon dating "IS NOT ACCURATE OR RELIABLE".
>These sediments could have been deposited in such >great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic >Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in >the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence >alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve >thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, >mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly >visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before >those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway >up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level >of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, >incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of >this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the >pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a >mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt >incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level >marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in >the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. ></quote>
>Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence.
That isn't reliable. At least that's what you said yesterday.
>How >about that.
>Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
How is that evidence for what you claim?
>There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all >rolled into one.
> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> About the pyramids: > <quote>
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > </quote>
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
According to oral tradition - which is far more reliable than ancient texts, being even more ancient - Heracles was responsible for the straits of Gibraltar. From Wikipedia: "According to some Roman sources,[3] while on his way to the island of Erytheia Hercules had to cross the mountain that was once Atlas. Instead of climbing the great mountain, Hercules used his superhuman strength to smash through it. By doing so, he connected the Atlantic Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea and formed the Strait of Gibraltar. One part of the split mountain is Gibraltar and the other is either Monte Hacho or Jebel Musa. These two mountains taken together have since then been known as the Pillars of Hercules, though other natural features have been associated with the name.[4] Diodorus Siculus,[5] however, held that instead of smashing through an isthmus to create the Straits of Gibraltar, Hercules instead narrowed an already existing strait to keep monsters in the Atlantic Ocean from entering the Mediterranean Sea."
> On Nov 4, 5:52 am, All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
> > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > > knowledge from the impending flood.
> > Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> > About the pyramids: > > <quote>
> > Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> > further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > > </quote>
> > Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > > about that.
> > Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> > There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > > rolled into one.
> According to oral tradition - which is far more reliable than ancient > texts, being even more ancient - Heracles was responsible for the > straits of Gibraltar. From Wikipedia: > "According to some Roman sources,[3] while on his way to the island of > Erytheia Hercules had to cross the mountain that was once Atlas. > Instead of climbing the great mountain, Hercules used his superhuman > strength to smash through it. By doing so, he connected the Atlantic > Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea and formed the Strait of Gibraltar. One > part of the split mountain is Gibraltar and the other is either Monte > Hacho or Jebel Musa. These two mountains taken together have since > then been known as the Pillars of Hercules, though other natural > features have been associated with the name.[4] Diodorus Siculus,[5] > however, held that instead of smashing through an isthmus to create > the Straits of Gibraltar, Hercules instead narrowed an already > existing strait to keep monsters in the Atlantic Ocean from entering > the Mediterranean Sea."
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You have soooo much trouble understanding embellishments; when they are used; when the stories have the higher probability of being true. I think you have gaps in your education K..
The Greeks embellished the OLDER and true stories for their entertainment value. Sorta like a movie or television Docu-Drama is part fact and part fiction to make it more appealing and draw more ratings.
The Greeks got these stories when they sent people to Egypt and Iraq thousands of years latter to learn their math and building techniques.
> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
Where does this leave actual hieroglyph inscriptions that tell us the actual names of the kings of Egypt who built each of the pyramids, as well as the dates? What ancient texts are you using as authority? According to Genesis, didn't Seth die before Noah was even born? And why should we link "pillars of Seth" to pryamids of Egypt?
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
You first. You are badly in need of a course on "critical thinking".
> About the pyramids: > <quote>
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
So what are you trying to say, using inscriptions of an unknown sort that no longer exist?
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario,
Huh? We have some very specific dates for the pyramids, much more recent than 12000 years ago. You are posting the same thoroughly refuted fringe new-age crap again.
> mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > </quote>
In other words, the encrustations, if they actually exist, have nothing to do with floods.
But...suppose for a minute these were due to Noah's Flood. Wasn't it supposed to be so deep that the pyramids would have been totally submerged? So why only part way up?
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
Proof? None. And proof of what, if it did exist?
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
> On Nov 4, 9:13 am, Kermit <unrestrained_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 5:52 am, All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
> > > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > > > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > > > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > > > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > > > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > > > knowledge from the impending flood.
> > > Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> > > About the pyramids: > > > <quote>
> > > Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > > > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > > > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > > > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > > > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > > > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > > > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > > > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > > > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > > > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > > > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > > > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> > > further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > > > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > > > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > > > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > > > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > > > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > > > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > > > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > > > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > > > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > > > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > > > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > > > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > > > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > > > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > > > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > > > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > > > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > > > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > > > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > > > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > > > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > > > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > > > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > > > </quote>
> > > Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > > > about that.
> > > Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> > > There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > > > rolled into one.
> > According to oral tradition - which is far more reliable than ancient > > texts, being even more ancient - Heracles was responsible for the > > straits of Gibraltar. From Wikipedia: > > "According to some Roman sources,[3] while on his way to the island of > > Erytheia Hercules had to cross the mountain that was once Atlas. > > Instead of climbing the great mountain, Hercules used his superhuman > > strength to smash through it. By doing so, he connected the Atlantic > > Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea and formed the Strait of Gibraltar. One > > part of the split mountain is Gibraltar and the other is either Monte > > Hacho or Jebel Musa. These two mountains taken together have since > > then been known as the Pillars of Hercules, though other natural > > features have been associated with the name.[4] Diodorus Siculus,[5] > > however, held that instead of smashing through an isthmus to create > > the Straits of Gibraltar, Hercules instead narrowed an already > > existing strait to keep monsters in the Atlantic Ocean from entering > > the Mediterranean Sea."
> > Kermit- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> [sigh]
> You have soooo much trouble understanding embellishments; when they > are used; when the stories have the higher probability of being true. > I think you have gaps in your education K..
Irony and projection.
> The Greeks embellished the OLDER and true stories
How do you know they were true stories?
> for their > entertainment value.
Sort of the way people retell the story of Paul Bunyan.
> Sorta like a movie or television Docu-Drama is > part fact and part fiction to make it more appealing and draw more > ratings.
And, nobody else ever did that, did they?
> The Greeks got these stories when they sent people to Egypt and Iraq > thousands of years latter to learn their math and building techniques.
So what? That does not make them true or accurate historical accounts.
On Nov 4, 8:52 am, All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
a flood happened.
big deal. a flood happened a few years ago in louisiana. didn't wipe out the world.
sorry, creationist. and we've already proven the bible's not historically accurate regarding 'exodus'
so your view that it's literally true is wrong
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
gee. i guess hurricane katrina wiped out the world, too, didn't it?
"On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), in article <8f5e6a24-f249-44c6-ab13-ba9ee51a5...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, All-Seeing-I stated..."
>Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's >flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But >who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, >Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did >Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated >knowledge from the impending flood.
[...snip...]
I've heard, from time to time, people say that the Israelites were building the Pyramids in the time of Moses.
Of course, that is a major anachronism, at best. And there is nothing in the Bible about it. But I do wonder whether there is a pedigree for that myth. Or is it just a matter of the rule: "X is old, and so is Y, so they must be contemporaneous"?
-- ---Tom S. the failure to nail currant jelly to a wall is not due to the nail; it is due to the currant jelly. Theodore Roosevelt, Letter to William Thayer, 1915 July 2
> On Nov 4, 9:13 am, Kermit <unrestrained_h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 5:52 am, All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
> > > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > > > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > > > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > > > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > > > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > > > knowledge from the impending flood.
> > > Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> > > About the pyramids: > > > <quote>
> > > Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > > > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > > > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > > > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > > > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > > > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > > > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > > > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > > > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > > > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > > > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > > > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> > > further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > > > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > > > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > > > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > > > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > > > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > > > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > > > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > > > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > > > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > > > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > > > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > > > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > > > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > > > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > > > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > > > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > > > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > > > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > > > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > > > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > > > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > > > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > > > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > > > </quote>
> > > Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > > > about that.
> > > Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> > > There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > > > rolled into one.
> > According to oral tradition - which is far more reliable than ancient > > texts, being even more ancient - Heracles was responsible for the > > straits of Gibraltar. From Wikipedia: > > "According to some Roman sources,[3] while on his way to the island of > > Erytheia Hercules had to cross the mountain that was once Atlas. > > Instead of climbing the great mountain, Hercules used his superhuman > > strength to smash through it. By doing so, he connected the Atlantic > > Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea and formed the Strait of Gibraltar. One > > part of the split mountain is Gibraltar and the other is either Monte > > Hacho or Jebel Musa. These two mountains taken together have since > > then been known as the Pillars of Hercules, though other natural > > features have been associated with the name.[4] Diodorus Siculus,[5] > > however, held that instead of smashing through an isthmus to create > > the Straits of Gibraltar, Hercules instead narrowed an already > > existing strait to keep monsters in the Atlantic Ocean from entering > > the Mediterranean Sea."
> > Kermit- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> [sigh]
> You have soooo much trouble understanding embellishments; when they > are used; when the stories have the higher probability of being true. > I think you have gaps in your education K..
> The Greeks embellished the OLDER and true stories for their > entertainment value. Sorta like a movie or television Docu-Drama is > part fact and part fiction to make it more appealing and draw more > ratings.
> The Greeks got these stories when they sent people to Egypt and Iraq > thousands of years latter to learn their math and building techniques.-
so the bible's authors weren't writing history? they were writing embellishments...
> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> About the pyramids: > <quote>
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such > great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This evidence > alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway > up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, > incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > </quote>
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I
<allseei...@usa.com> wrote: > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids.
ROTFL! Gods this is great humor.
-- http://desertphile.org Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water "Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
On 4 Nov 2009 07:47:58 -0800, TomS <TomS_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> I've heard, from time to time, people say that the Israelites > were building the Pyramids in the time of Moses.
There is a Jewish (or I should say Israelite) tourish web site that insists Jews should visit the Great Pyramid to see what their ancestors had built. That had me laughing for a week.
> Of course, that is a major anachronism, at best. And there is > nothing in the Bible about it. But I do wonder whether there is > a pedigree for that myth. Or is it just a matter of the rule: > "X is old, and so is Y, so they must be contemporaneous"?
-- http://desertphile.org Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water "Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> enriched this group when s/he wrote:
>Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's >flood
There was no flood.
>AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids.
Hohohohoho!
>But >who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, >Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did >Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated >knowledge from the impending flood.
>Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that >inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's >casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded >that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled >"more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a >European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones >were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in >1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the >pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and >fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and >reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from >them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
But there was still no flood.
>further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the >Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the >monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its >sides, and in salt incrustations found within.
Evidence of capillary evaporation.
> Silt sediments rising >to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells >and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve >thousand years old.
You do talk some rubbish.
>These sediments could have been deposited in such >great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic >Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in >the area until eight thousand years after the flood.
Oh? So they are due to move there is 4000AD?
> This evidence >alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve >thousand years old.
Nope. Wrong again. And there was still no flood.
>In support of this ancient flood scenario,
There was no flood.
>mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly >visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before >those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway >up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level >of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, >incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of >this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the >pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a >mineral content consistent with salt from the sea.
Evidence? No, thought not.
> These salt >incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level >marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in >the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. ></quote>
>Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How >about that.
There was no flood.
>Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
That "Dr." Kent Hovind has made lots of *scientific* discoveries...
That wars have been fought because some scientific finding discredited some facet of some religion...
To have a "higher education" than most posters to this news group...
To understand how geologists determine the age of any given sample of rock...
That trilobites were Cambrian mammals... [that one still makes me laugh]
And that he has "created genes" and not evolved ape genes...
That linguists have traced all the world's languages to the Middle East region and back to around the same time as the bible claims Noah and his sons rebuilt mankind.
Claimed that talk.origin's moderator was a troll.
Claimed cigarettes do not cause cancer.
Now, I ask you, is this the sort of guy you would give an credence to? Certainly I don't.
> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve accumulated > knowledge from the impending flood.
You have unsupported "ancient texts" - but archaeologist have the ACUAL BUILDINGS and writings of people AT THE SITE, who worked on the structures. THEY all confirm that it was Egyption workers that built the pyramids.
> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
???Why .... yours, obviously, has shorted out and fried your brain.
> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the stones > were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. Sadly, in > 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs robbed the > pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild mosques and > fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into smaller pieces and > reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions were removed from > them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever lost.
> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its > sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising > to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells > and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve > thousand years old.
How can that be, with the universe only 6,000 years old? Excavation of the sediments around the pyramid show houses used by the EGYPTION workers.
These sediments could have been deposited in such
> great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic > Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in > the area until eight thousand years after the flood.
Unsupported claim by someone who doesn't even understand basic math.
Eight thousand years after a flood that was supposed to happen less than 6,000 years ago (or - 4,000 BC). Are you saying the Egyptions are nnot going to be libing in the area they are living in - in 2,000 years into the future?
This evidence
> alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve > thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, > mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly > visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before > those stones were removed by the Arabs.
"Mysterious legends" support nothing! WHAT records?
These watermarks were halfway
> up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level > of the Nile River.
400 feet above the nile would hardly indicate a global flood that covered thousand foot high mountains.
Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened,
> incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of > this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the > pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a > mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt > incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level > marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in > the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height. > </quote>
Quote? From whom? Fred or Barney?
> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. How > about that.
Fossil evidence (even if it IS there) on stones that have been cut and moved into their current position. That evidence of notihng.
> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
Verification? What information? What was it, in this information, that supports ANY crap you spread.
> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth all > rolled into one.
No ..... we have another pile of shit from one of the biggest assholes around.
You're so dumb, no one has a scale that measures that low yet.
> On 4 Nov 2009 07:47:58 -0800, TomS <TomS_mem...@newsguy.com> > wrote:
> > I've heard, from time to time, people say that the Israelites > > were building the Pyramids in the time of Moses.
> There is a Jewish (or I should say Israelite) tourish web site > that insists Jews should visit the Great Pyramid to see what their > ancestors had built. That had me laughing for a week.
> > Of course, that is a major anachronism, at best. And there is > > nothing in the Bible about it. But I do wonder whether there is > > a pedigree for that myth. Or is it just a matter of the rule: > > "X is old, and so is Y, so they must be contemporaneous"?
> --http://desertphile.org > Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water > "Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
I don't know any Jews that think their ancestors built the pyramids. They do like to joke about it with pyramid construction t-shirts and such but they also point out that the Torah makes no mention of pyramids during the Egyptian Captivity. This is a strong sight that they Jews did not get far enough into Egypt to even see these artificial hills that were old before they got there.
Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net> wrote: >On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I ><allseei...@usa.com> wrote: >> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's >> flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. >ROTFL! Gods this is great humor.
He's right. We've all known for years that the pyramids were built by Xordaxian pioneers from outer space looking for new worlds to colonize.
After they built them (it took two weeks) they found out what the property taxes were and just wrote the Earth off as a bad deal.
See? You don't have to be a creationist to make up stories.
PS: Noah's flood was due to a blocked toilet. No crap.
> Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net> wrote: > >On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I > ><allseei...@usa.com> wrote: > >> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > >> flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. > >ROTFL! Gods this is great humor.
> He's right. We've all known for years that the pyramids were > built by Xordaxian pioneers from outer space looking for > new worlds to colonize.
> After they built them (it took two weeks) they found out what > the property taxes were and just wrote the Earth off as a bad > deal.
> See? You don't have to be a creationist to make up stories.
> PS: Noah's flood was due to a blocked toilet. No crap.
> Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net> wrote: > >On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:52:51 -0800 (PST), All-Seeing-I > ><allseei...@usa.com> wrote: > >> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > >> flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. > >ROTFL! Gods this is great humor.
> He's right. We've all known for years that the pyramids were > built by Xordaxian pioneers from outer space looking for > new worlds to colonize.
> After they built them (it took two weeks) they found out what > the property taxes were and just wrote the Earth off as a bad > deal.
> See? You don't have to be a creationist to make up stories.
> PS: Noah's flood was due to a blocked toilet. No crap.
Back then they had no paper and had to write on clay tablets. Imagine what would happen to the plumbing if you used chunks of clay instead of soft paper...
> All-Seeing-I wrote: > > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's > > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But > > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, > > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did > > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve > > accumulated knowledge from the impending flood.
> > Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
> > About the pyramids: <quote>
> > Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that > > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's > > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded > > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled > > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a > > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the > > stones were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. > > Sadly, in 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs > > robbed the pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild > > mosques and fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into > > smaller pieces and reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions > > were removed from them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever > > lost.
> > further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the > > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the > > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up > > its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments > > rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many > > seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly > > twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited > > in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the > > dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not > > living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This > > evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at > > least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood > > scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were > > clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid > > before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were > > halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the > > present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was > > first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. > > While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the > > stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the > > salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These > > salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water > > level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some > > time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its > > height.
> The sea salt would have been used as part of the building process.
Ooops. Huston. We have a problem
These sediments could have been deposited in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, The sea is very far away.
> > </quote>
> > Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence.
> Carbon dated, no less! So today you accept carbon dating again, until > next tinme when it suits you not to? And as for fossils; look up what > limestone actually _is_.
I simply point out to you that the article says they used carbon dating. Which was for your benefit. Personally, I do not believe carbon dating is all that accurate because many things can skew the results; Like we saw when the shorud of Turin was tested as being the same age as the fire that destroyed the church that it was located in many years latter..
> How
> > about that.
> > Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
> > There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth > > all rolled into one.
> So the evidence is essentially something that is not there, because it > was destroyed?
Read for comprehension. People saw the evidence and saw the evidence being destroyed. Some of the evidence was even written down before it was destroyed.
You are in extreme denial caused by an over consumption of science.
All-seeing-I wrote: > On Nov 4, 8:18 am, Burkhard <b.scha...@ed.ac.uk> wrote: >> All-Seeing-I wrote: >>> Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's >>> flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But >>> who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, >>> Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did >>> Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve >>> accumulated knowledge from the impending flood. >>> Put on your thinking caps boys and girls.. >>> About the pyramids: <quote> >>> Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that >>> inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's >>> casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded >>> that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled >>> "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a >>> European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the >>> stones were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. >>> Sadly, in 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs >>> robbed the pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild >>> mosques and fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into >>> smaller pieces and reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions >>> were removed from them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever >>> lost. >>> further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the >>> Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the >>> monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up >>> its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments >>> rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many >>> seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly >>> twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited >>> in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the >>> dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not >>> living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This >>> evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at >>> least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood >>> scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were >>> clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid >>> before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were >>> halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the >>> present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was >>> first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. >>> While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the >>> stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the >>> salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These >>> salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water >>> level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some >>> time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its >>> height. >> Fascinating - could be evidence for a maverick theory about how they >> were build by the Egyptians http://www.philipcoppens.com/davidovits.html
>> The sea salt would have been used as part of the building process.
> Ooops. Huston. We have a problem
> These sediments could have been deposited in such great quantities > only by major sea flooding, The sea is very far away.
and yo base this claim on what exactly? What are your numbers of the amount of sediments deposited, and what are the numbers we would expect according to Davidovids method? Precise quantification please. Note that your own source says that the majority of the salt is _not_ from the sea
>>> </quote> >>> Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence. >> Carbon dated, no less! So today you accept carbon dating again, until >> next tinme when it suits you not to? And as for fossils; look up what >> limestone actually _is_.
> I simply point out to you that the article says they used carbon > dating. Which was for your benefit. Personally, I do not believe > carbon dating is all that accurate because many things can skew the > results; Like we saw when the shorud of Turin was tested as being the > same age as the fire that destroyed the church that it was located in > many years latter..
>> How
>>> about that. >>> Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep. >>> There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth >>> all rolled into one. >> So the evidence is essentially something that is not there, because it >> was destroyed?
> Read for comprehension. People saw the evidence and saw the evidence > being destroyed. Some of the evidence was even written down before it > was destroyed.
And yet no copy? and the only thing they "saw" according to your own source is something they did _not_ understand, so even if it was there, coudl have been just ornaments?
>On Nov 4, 8:18 am, Burkhard <b.scha...@ed.ac.uk> wrote: >> All-Seeing-I wrote: >> > Wow! We get a bonus of 2 for the price of one. Evidence of Noah's >> > flood AND evidence that the Egyptians did NOT build the pyramids. But >> > who built them then?. Well, we do have ancient texts that say Seth, >> > Adam's son built "The Pillars of Seth" who is AKA "Hermes". Why did >> > Seth want to build such structures? To record and preserve >> > accumulated knowledge from the impending flood.
>> > Put on your thinking caps boys and girls..
>> > About the pyramids: <quote>
>> > Herodotus, visiting in the fifth century BC, reported that >> > inscriptions of strange characters were to be found on the pyramid's >> > casing stones. In AD 1179 the Arab historian Abd el Latif recorded >> > that these inscriptions were so numerous that they could have filled >> > "more than ten thousand written pages." William of Baldensal, a >> > European visitor of the early fourteenth century, tells how the >> > stones were covered with strange symbols arranged in careful rows. >> > Sadly, in 1356, following an earthquake that leveled Cairo, the Arabs >> > robbed the pyramid of its beautiful casing of stones to rebuild >> > mosques and fortresses in the city. As the stones were cut into >> > smaller pieces and reshaped, all traces of the ancient inscriptions >> > were removed from them. A great library of ageless wisdom was forever >> > lost.
>> > further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the >> > Great Pyramid may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the >> > monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up >> > its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments >> > rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many >> > seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly >> > twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited >> > in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the >> > dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not >> > living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood. This >> > evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at >> > least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood >> > scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were >> > clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid >> > before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were >> > halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the >> > present level of the Nile River. Further, when the Great Pyramid was >> > first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. >> > While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the >> > stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the >> > salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These >> > salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water >> > level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some >> > time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its >> > height.
>> The sea salt would have been used as part of the building process.
>Ooops. Huston.
John Huston, the legendary actor, director, and screenwriter?
>We have a problem
> These sediments could have been deposited in such great quantities >only by major sea flooding,
So you say, but even assuming that the sediments are there, why couldn't they be the result of the accumulation of wind-blown material?
>The sea is very far away.
But the Nile isn't.
>> > </quote>
>> > Water at the 400 above the river? Wowsa... WITH fosil evidence.
>> Carbon dated, no less! So today you accept carbon dating again, until >> next tinme when it suits you not to? And as for fossils; look up what >> limestone actually _is_.
>I simply point out to you that the article says they used carbon >dating. Which was for your benefit.
But you don't thing that it's accurate, so why bring it up? Are you trying to mislead us?
>Personally, I do not believe >carbon dating is all that accurate because many things can skew the >results; Like we saw when the shorud of Turin was tested as being the >same age as the fire that destroyed the church that it was located in >many years latter..
Why would a supposed non-Christian care?
>> How
>> > about that.
>> > Destroyed information that was on the sides of the pyramids? Yep.
>> > There ya have it. Evidence for Noah's flood and The Pilars of Seth >> > all rolled into one.
>> So the evidence is essentially something that is not there, because it >> was destroyed?
>Read for comprehension. People saw the evidence and saw the evidence >being destroyed.
No, they didn't. You merely *claim* that they saw the evidence being destroyed.
>Some of the evidence was even written down before it >was destroyed.
Even if we accept the claim of a Noachian Flood, there's no way the evidence would be destroyed. I can walk you through it if you like. And besides, you don't believe what they wrote.
>You are in extreme denial caused by an over consumption of science.
And what's the basis for *your* belief? Just because you read it doesn't mean that it's true.
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