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Ye Old One  
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From: Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:03:07 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
Horse genome unlocked by science

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8345578.stm

The genome of a domestic horse has been successfully sequenced by an
international team of researchers.

The work, published in the journal Science, may shed light on how
horses were domesticated.

It also reveals similarities between the horse and other placental
mammals, such as bovids - the hoofed group including goats, bison and
cattle.

The authors also found horses share much of their DNA with humans,
which could have implications for medicine.

Horses suffer from more than 90 hereditary diseases that show
similarities to those in humans.

"Horses and humans suffer from similar illnesses, so identifying the
genetic culprits in horses promises to deepen our knowledge of disease
in both organisms," said co-author Kerstin Lindblad-Toh, from the
Broad Institute at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in
Cambridge, US.

"The horse genome sequence is a key enabling resource toward this
goal."

To generate a high-quality genome sequence, the researchers analysed
DNA from an adult female thoroughbred named Twilight.

The horse's DNA was sequenced using capillary DNA sequencing
technology (known as Sanger sequencing) to reveal a genome that is
roughly 2.7 billion "letters", or nucleotides, in size.

In addition to sequencing the genome of a thoroughbred horse, the
researchers also examined DNA from a variety of other horse breeds.

These included the American quarter horse, Andalusian, Arabian,
Belgian draft horse, Hanoverian, Hokkaido, Icelandic horse, Norwegian
fjord horse, and Standardbred breeds.

The team surveyed the extent of genetic variation both within and
across breeds to create a catalogue of more than one million
single-letter genetic differences in these breeds.

This is slightly larger than the genome of the domestic dog, and
smaller than both the human and cow genomes.

So far, scientists have also sequenced the genomes of the platypus,
mouse, rat, chimpanzee, rhesus macaque and, of course, human.

Horses were first domesticated 4,000 to 6,000 years ago. Over time, as
machines have become the chief sources of agricultural and industrial
muscle, those roles have shifted to sport and recreational activities.
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Desertphile  
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 More options Nov 7, 2:49 am
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From: Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:49:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:03:07 GMT, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
wrote:

> The authors also found horses share much of their
> DNA with humans, which could have implications for
> medicine. Horses suffer from more than 90 hereditary
> diseases that show similarities to those in humans.

This is *GREAT* news! We can now use prisoners, Democrats, and
members of the inferior races to test medicines targeted for
horses. I love horses!

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From: Burkhard <b.scha...@ed.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:50:05 +0000
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 11:50 am
Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
Desertphile wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:03:07 GMT, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
> wrote:

>> The authors also found horses share much of their
>> DNA with humans, which could have implications for
>> medicine. Horses suffer from more than 90 hereditary
>> diseases that show similarities to those in humans.

> This is *GREAT* news! We can now use prisoners, Democrats, and
> members of the inferior races to test medicines targeted for
> horses. I love horses!

Yihaa, darn right ;o)

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Ye Old One  
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From: Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:55:33 GMT
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:49:34 -0700, Desertphile
<desertph...@invalid-address.net> enriched this group when s/he wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:03:07 GMT, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
>wrote:

>> The authors also found horses share much of their
>> DNA with humans, which could have implications for
>> medicine. Horses suffer from more than 90 hereditary
>> diseases that show similarities to those in humans.

>This is *GREAT* news! We can now use prisoners, Democrats, and
>members of the inferior races to test medicines targeted for
>horses. I love horses!

You are evil :)

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Ron O  
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From: Ron O <rokim...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:03:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
On Nov 6, 7:49 pm, Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:03:07 GMT, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
> wrote:

> > The authors also found horses share much of their
> > DNA with humans, which could have implications for
> > medicine. Horses suffer from more than 90 hereditary
> > diseases that show similarities to those in humans.

> This is *GREAT* news! We can now use prisoners, Democrats, and
> members of the inferior races to test medicines targeted for
> horses. I love horses!

> --http://desertphile.org
> Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
> "Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz

If they were more acceptable table fare we would have a lot more
horses running around in pastures.

Ron Okimoto


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From: VoiceOfReason <papa_...@cybertown.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:04:24 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
On Nov 6, 8:49 pm, Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:03:07 GMT, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
> wrote:

> > The authors also found horses share much of their
> > DNA with humans, which could have implications for
> > medicine. Horses suffer from more than 90 hereditary
> > diseases that show similarities to those in humans.

> This is *GREAT* news! We can now use prisoners, Democrats, and
> members of the inferior races to test medicines targeted for
> horses. I love horses!

Can't use creationists though.  Their genes were created.  ;-)

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Louann Miller  
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From: Louann Miller <louan...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:40:41 -0600
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote in news:a6a345b6-0ea8-4bec-95cc-
bd0e86a0e...@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> If they were more acceptable table fare we would have a lot more
> horses running around in pastures.

Some people who study proto-indo-european culture have suggested that the
food taboo about horses goes back all that way, i.e. ten thousand years or
so.

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:08:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
On 7 Nov, 16:40, Louann Miller <louan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote in news:a6a345b6-0ea8-4bec-95cc-
> bd0e86a0e...@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> > If they were more acceptable table fare we would have a lot more
> > horses running around in pastures.

> Some people who study proto-indo-european culture have suggested that the
> food taboo about horses goes back all that way, i.e. ten thousand years or
> so.

how come the french, spainish and icelanders all missed out this taboo?

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Ron O  
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From: Ron O <rokim...@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:29:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
On Nov 7, 11:08 am, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On 7 Nov, 16:40, Louann Miller <louan...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Ron O <rokim...@cox.net> wrote in news:a6a345b6-0ea8-4bec-95cc-
> > bd0e86a0e...@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> > > If they were more acceptable table fare we would have a lot more
> > > horses running around in pastures.

> > Some people who study proto-indo-european culture have suggested that the
> > food taboo about horses goes back all that way, i.e. ten thousand years or
> > so.

> how come the french, spainish and icelanders all missed out this taboo?

Because their hunger was greater than their need for war horses, draft
horses etc.

The best meat horses are suposed to be the old draft breeds.  Its a
twofer kind of deal.

Ron Okimoto


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From: Louann Miller <louan...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:22:06 -0600
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:4f5600e1-a26b-4e48-9083-fe56f7f5253f@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

>> food taboo about horses goes back all that way, i.e. ten thousand
>> years or so.

> how come the french, spainish and icelanders all missed out this
> taboo?

I thought the French eating horses was a relatively recent (19th century?)
movement, one of their periodic fad movements toward rationality.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:35:46 +1100
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.

Some people say it is too strong and gamey.  I have had people say the same
of lamb and grass-fed beef.  It's a matter of taste and what you are brought
up with. If horse steak was on the table three times a week you would
probably love it.

david


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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:11:50 -0500
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In article
<ed3bb073-a109-4cec-bf2f-55b676c95...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,

No, they don't use genes, YAHUWAHU creates them individually from dirt,
but usually forgets to magic their minds.

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Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:29:16 -0700
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.
Ye Old One quoted:

 > Horse genome unlocked by science

[...]

 > In addition to sequencing the genome of a
 > thoroughbred horse, the researchers also examined
 > DNA from a variety of other horse breeds.

 > These included the American quarter horse,
 > Andalusian, Arabian, Belgian draft horse,
 > Hanoverian, Hokkaido, Icelandic horse, Norwegian
 > fjord horse, and Standardbred breeds.

[...]

Most important finding from studying all these
breeds?

"A horse is a horse, of course, of course...".

xanthian.


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Steven L.  
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From: "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:33:21 -0500
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Subject: Re: News: Horse genome unlocked by science.

Here's a recent ad in Craigslist for just such a thing:

Wanted: Pony
Date: 2009-07-15, 9:52PM AKDT

My kid is having a birthday coming up soon, and there'll be a lot of
children around, so I figured I'd better get a pony.

I suspect there'll be what - about 20 or 30 kids, and I thought a pony
would fit the bill nicely.

Please let me know what you feed your pony - hay, grain, whatever, so I
know what to expect.

Also, let me know if the pony gets a lot of exercise, or if it just
kinda hangs out all day, so I know what kind of shape it is in.

If you do have a pony you could sell, please contact me, and then
immediately start putting barbeque sauce in it's bedding or add some
Lawry's to it's salt lick - I like to marinade it early and long, so
that the flavor is at it's peak by the time I take possession.

If things work out well, I may contact you for other parties I'll be
involved in; they kids can't tell the difference between ponies and
burger, and usually they're a lot cheaper.

     * Location: Anchorage

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/anc/1272471632.html

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