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Ye Old One  
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From: Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:41:07 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 12:41 am
Subject: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines
Tue Nov 3, 4:39 am ET

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091103/sc_nm/us_genes_pig_3

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – An international team of researchers said
Monday it had mapped the DNA of a domestic pig, work they say could
help lead to better breeding techniques as well as improve vaccines
against diseases such as swine flu.

They plan to look for genes useful in pork production and immunity in
pigs, which are similar in size to humans. And, like humans, they
catch influenza very easily.

"Understanding the swine genome will lead to health advancements in
the swine population and accelerate the development of vaccinations
for pigs," said Roger Beachy, Director of the U.S. Department of
Agriculture's National Institute of Food and Agriculture.

"This new insight into the genetic makeup of the swine population can
help reduce disease and enable medical advancements in both pigs and
humans," Beachy said in a statement.

"The pig is a unique animal that is important for food and that is
used as an animal model for human disease," added Larry Schook of the
University of Illinois in Champaign, who helped direct the project.

"And because the native wild animals are still in existence, it is a
really exciting animal to look at to learn about the genomic effects
of domestication."

The pandemic H1N1 swine flu virus originated in pigs and evidence
suggests it can be passed from humans to pigs and back again. Pigs are
also susceptible to many other strains of influenza.

--
Bob.


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From: heekster <heeks...@ifiwxtc.net>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:59:22 -0600
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:41:07 GMT, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:

http://www.ukchatpics.co.uk/sounds2/sonofabb.wav

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:18:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 4, 11:41 pm, Ye Old One <use...@mcsuk.net> wrote:

Too little too late.

Pandemics dont last long, and no doubt swine flu will be a distant
memory before this research hits the markets.

The government, can't even supply Tamiflu, Pandemrix and Celvapan to
people who need it NOW.
And these were already developed drugs either approved or rushed
through by the FDA.

The only way this will be useful, is if swineflu mutates with say
H5N1, and H5N1 becomes more virulent.


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:21:39 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 7:18 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The only way this will be useful, is if swineflu mutates with say
> H5N1, and H5N1 becomes more virulent.-

ain't it wunnerful creationists can talk about stuff they had no role
in developing?

if creationists had their way we'd still be sacrificing goats to stop
pandemics...


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Discussion subject changed to "Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines." by PepsiFreak@teranews.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:59:50 -0500
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Subject: Re: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
and explaining politicians.

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Discussion subject changed to "News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines." by spintronic
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From: spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:44:15 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 3:21 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 7:18 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > The only way this will be useful, is if swineflu mutates with say
> > H5N1, and H5N1 becomes more virulent.-

> ain't it wunnerful creationists can talk about stuff they had no role
> in developing?

> if creationists had their way we'd still be sacrificing goats to stop
> pandemics...

Could you write a childrens novel?

Your talents at boring people to death, would do wonders for kids who
can't sleep.


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:49:03 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 11:44 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 3:21 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:

> > On Nov 5, 7:18 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > The only way this will be useful, is if swineflu mutates with say
> > > H5N1, and H5N1 becomes more virulent.-

> > ain't it wunnerful creationists can talk about stuff they had no role
> > in developing?

> > if creationists had their way we'd still be sacrificing goats to stop
> > pandemics...

> Could you write a childrens novel?

yeah but it would be too advanced for you. you're a creationist.

> Your talents at boring people to death, would do wonders for kids who
> can't sleep.

that's alright. i'm not the one who thinks ghosts cause the wind to
blow.

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From: spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:31:21 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 5:49 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 11:44 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

.
.

> > Your talents at boring people to death, would do wonders for kids who
> > can't sleep.

> that's alright. i'm not the one who thinks ghosts cause the wind to
> blow.

Neither do I.

So once again, all you are doing is giving evolutionists a bad name,
as a bunch of liars.

You're doing a great job. Keep it up.


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From: wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:58:54 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 1:31 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 5:49 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:> On Nov 5, 11:44 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> .
> .

> > > Your talents at boring people to death, would do wonders for kids who
> > > can't sleep.

> > that's alright. i'm not the one who thinks ghosts cause the wind to
> > blow.

> Neither do I.

and the difference between ghosts and creationism?

none.

> So once again, all you are doing is giving evolutionists a bad name,
> as a bunch of liars.

> You're doing a great job. Keep it up.

go ahead. prove me wrong. tell me what the difference is between your
superstitious view of nature and ghosts making the wind blow.

betcha you can't.


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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:31:21 -0600
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:21:39 -0800 (PST), wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net>
wrote:

>On Nov 5, 7:18 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> The only way this will be useful, is if swineflu mutates with say
>> H5N1, and H5N1 becomes more virulent.-

>ain't it wunnerful creationists can talk about stuff they had no role
>in developing?

>if creationists had their way we'd still be sacrificing goats to stop
>pandemics...

The virus has jumped another species barrier.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1934826,00.html?iid=ts...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571691,00.html


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:27:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 6:58 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:

your boring me now, in the bucket with P.O.O-head you go.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:05:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:05 am
Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 5:27 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 6:58 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:

> > go ahead. prove me wrong. tell me what the difference is between your
> > superstitious view of nature and ghosts making the wind blow.

> > betcha you can't.

> your boring me now, in the bucket with P.O.O-head you go

IOW you can't answer the question

no problem. i'll keep asking it until you do.

you won't answer it because you CANT


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:31:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 11:05 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 5:27 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

.
.

> > your boring me now, in the bucket with P.O.O-head you go

> IOW you can't answer the question

> no problem. i'll keep asking it until you do.

> you won't answer it because you CANT

You want me to answer your ridiculous question:

> what's the difference between ghosts and creationism?

And you wonder;

why I think you're a nutjob,
why I think you give genuine evolutionists a bad name, and
why I can't be bothered wasting my time with you?

If you don't get it.

It's because nutjobs generally can't.


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:13:56 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, HighQ <einstein...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> On Nov 5, 11:05 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:> On Nov 5, 5:27 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> .
> .

> > > your boring me now, in the bucket with P.O.O-head you go

His boring you now? Poo-head, seriously? Your lack of coherence is
only matched by your lack of maturity.

> > IOW you can't answer the question

> > no problem. i'll keep asking it until you do.

> > you won't answer it because you CANT

> You want me to answer your ridiculous question:

> > what's the difference between ghosts and creationism?

And yet you still don't answer. Why is believeing that ghosts make the
wind blow any less credible than believing that a supernatural entity
*poofed* all life (both extinct and extant) into existence?

> And you wonder;

> why I think you're a nutjob,

Takes one to know one?

> why I think you give genuine evolutionists a bad name, and
> why I can't be bothered wasting my time with you?

And yet you ARE wasting your time. Also considering that you try your
damndest to slander and misrepresent people you characterise as
'evolutionists' you should surely be cheering wf3h on if you think he
is giving them a bad name. I know if I was a creationist I would be
praying to my invisible, telepathic friend in the sky that you would
refrain from posting anymore, removing any doubt about the
untenability of the creationist *ahem* hypothesis.

> If you don't get it.

> It's because nutjobs generally can't.

Nutjob? Ha! Do you know the difference between someone suffering from
psychosis and a true believer who receives instructions from God? No?
Me either

fnord


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:24:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 5, 6:31 pm, HighQ <einstein...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

yeah i want you to answer the question. if you think ghosts cause
speciation, then what's the difference between that and saying they
cause the wind to blow?

> why I think you're a nutjob,
> why I think you give genuine evolutionists a bad name, and
> why I can't be bothered wasting my time with you?

> If you don't get it.

> It's because nutjobs generally can't.

says the guy who thinks ghosts cause the wind to blow

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:53:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:31:21 -0600, heekster

<heeks...@ifiwxtc.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:21:39 -0800 (PST), wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net>
> wrote:
> >On Nov 5, 7:18 am, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> The only way this will be useful, is if swineflu mutates with say
> >> H5N1, and H5N1 becomes more virulent.-
> >ain't it wunnerful creationists can talk about stuff they had no role
> >in developing?

> >if creationists had their way we'd still be sacrificing goats to stop
> >pandemics...
> The virus has jumped another species barrier.
> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1934826,00.html?iid=ts...

> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571691,00.html

Well this just bloody sucks. (Though if FOX "News" said it
happened, it probably didn't happen.)

The article states "So far, only swine and ferrets, which are
particularly susceptible to the flu, have become infected with
H1N1." I thought humans also got the virus, and the article then
contradicts itself saying "Garvey notes that despite nearly 25,000
cases of positive, lab-confirmed H1N1 in people reported in the
U.S. since last spring...." The article also implies that humans
are not animals.

Gods, the USA media cracks me up.

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:18:34 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
HighQ <einstein...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in news:ccd2fc63-6206-45b3-b29f-
c68118bd5...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 5, 11:05 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 5:27 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> .
> .

>> > your boring me now, in the bucket with P.O.O-head you go

>> IOW you can't answer the question

>> no problem. i'll keep asking it until you do.

>> you won't answer it because you CANT

> You want me to answer your ridiculous question:

well, why don't you?
And why did you say you were leaving and within minutes
were posting again?

>> what's the difference between ghosts and creationism?

> And you wonder;

> why I think you're a nutjob,
> why I think you give genuine evolutionists a bad name, and
> why I can't be bothered wasting my time with you?

And yet, you do not answer the simple questions. Which tells me
he is not a nutjob, and you do not think he is a nut job. It is
just that you cannot answer his questions.

> If you don't get it.

> It's because nutjobs generally can't.

Actually, we all get it. You are unable to answer the question,
so you resort to calling him a nutjob.

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:07:57 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 6, 3:18 pm, "Dick C." <foo.dic...@gmail.com> wrote:

No RETARD, you don't get it.

I have repeatedly told the nutjob, I don't believe in ghosts.

So asking me "what's the difference between ghosts and creationism?"

Is like asking a thief "what's the difference between the two
charities he gives to."


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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:17:07 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 6, 1:07 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> No RETARD, you don't get it.

> I have repeatedly told the nutjob, I don't believe in ghosts.

sure you do. you believe ghosts cause organisms to pop up in nature.

if you DONT believe that, then tell me what you DO believe. you
creationists are like sexual predators...always hiding your actions in
the dark

> So asking me "what's the difference between ghosts and creationism?"

> Is like asking a thief "what's the difference between the two
> charities he gives to."-

why are you creationists so ashamed of your beliefs that you refuse to
discuss them?

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spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Nov 6, 3:18 pm, "Dick C." <foo.dic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> HighQ <einstein...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:ccd2fc63-6206-45b3-b29f-
>> > If you don't get it.

>> > It's because nutjobs generally can't.

>> Actually, we all get it. You are unable to answer the question,
>> so you resort to calling him a nutjob.

> No RETARD, you don't get it.

> I have repeatedly told the nutjob, I don't believe in ghosts.

You are not a Christian? You do not believe in the Holy Ghost?

> So asking me "what's the difference between ghosts and creationism?"

> Is like asking a thief "what's the difference between the two
> charities he gives to."

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:31 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Nov 6, 8:17 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 1:07 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> > No RETARD, you don't get it.

> > I have repeatedly told the nutjob, I don't believe in ghosts.

> sure you do.

You are THE biggest retard I have ever met.

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From: Desertphile <desertph...@invalid-address.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:35:57 -0700
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: News: Pig DNA mapped: may help with vaccines.
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 18:47:31 -0800 (PST), spintronic

<spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 6, 8:17 pm, wf3h <w...@vsswireless.net> wrote:
> > On Nov 6, 1:07 pm, spintronic <spintro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > No RETARD, you don't get it.
> > > I have repeatedly told the nutjob, I don't believe in ghosts.
> > sure you do.
> You are THE biggest retard I have ever met.

Scito te ipsum

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