> > On Nov 2, 6:05 pm, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@gFNORDmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On 2009-11-02,snex<x...@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> > On Nov 2, 3:29 am, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@gFNORDmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On 2009-11-02,snex<x...@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> >> > On Nov 2, 12:50 am, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@gFNORDmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> On 2009-11-02,snex<x...@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> >> >> > On Oct 29, 12:50 am, Garamond Lethe <cartographi...@gFNORDmail.com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 2009-10-29,snex<x...@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> >> >> >> > On Oct 28, 6:31 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:16:08 -0700 (PDT), the following
> >> >> >> >> >> appeared in talk.origins, posted bysnex<x...@comcast.net>:

> >> >> >> >> >> <snip>

> >> >> >> >> >> >... your appeal to popularity fallacy answers it wonderfully. you are
> >> >> >> >> >> >a dishonest kook who has no interest whatsoever in the truth, just
> >> >> >> >> >> >like i said.

> >> >> >> >> >> Welcome back! Do you still insist that Big Blue is more
> >> >> >> >> >> intelligent than you are, IOW that a chess match is a valid
> >> >> >> >> >> way to measure intelligence? I asked this earlier and you
> >> >> >> >> >> somehow failed to answer.

> >> >> >> >> > show me anywhere that i said that a chess match is a valid way to
> >> >> >> >> > measure intelligence, dishonest asswipe.

> >> >> >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/msg/0ce6c0f3512d05f9?dmod...
> >> >> >> >> Message-ID: <9d805d4e-f0f6-4f94-8641-7e3674716...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
> >> >> >> >> <q>
> >> >> >> >> or perhaps you are just a complete fucking moron. i can come up with
> >> >> >> >> many intellectual competitions right off the cuff. how about chess for
> >> >> >> >> one? im not even good at chess, but i bet i can knock the pants off of
> >> >> >> >> root. he will be praying to his invisible god to save him.
> >> >> >> >> </q>

> >> >> >> > that quote doesnt state what i asked for.

> >> >> >> You have suggested chess as an "intellectual competition" specifically
> >> >> >> to measure your intelligence wrt another poster.  

> >> >> > no moron, i gave it as AN EXAMPLE

> >> >> ....of an intellectual competition.

> >> > which doesnt mean it measures intelligence, moron. races dont measure
> >> > "speed." you cant tell how fast a person runs by knowing that he won 5
> >> > out of 7 races.

> >> But you can measure who is /faster/.

> >> This is a really handy idea called "relative measurement", as opposed
> >> to "absolute measurement".  In competitions, the relative measure is
> >> more important.  You said it yourself:  you're a bad chess player,
> >> but /relative to/ Eric, because you consider yourself to be smarter
> >> than him, you would beat him in chess.

> > what do you suppose would enable me to beat him in chess besides my
> > intellect?

> It's not that something other than intellect is being used, it's that
> the test is too narrow to be useful.