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 More options Nov 4 2009, 3:05 pm
Newsgroups: talk.origins
From: backspace <stephan...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 06:05:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: Aristotle and his tautological influence
On Nov 4, 1:41 pm, Burkhard <b.scha...@ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> > Do you that the "truth of the proposition cannot be disputed"(Darwin's
> > exact words), there is no way to falsify or test this. How could it
> > possibly be incorrect.
> Easy. If they are not inheritable to start with, something genetics can
> tell you.

Opening paragraph said nothing about genes, we are talking about
Darwin, Matthews, Aristotle , not genes, if you want to bring in genes
then explain how Darwin solved genes as a cybernetic abstraction if he
couldn't define it. How did darwin solve a problem he couldn't
define?

> We are told that certain traits became more

> > common. But why did they become more common.  Ans: Because the traits
> > were enabling. But obviously the traits were "enabling" or they
> > wouldn't have become more common now would they?

> And that is tautological way? Every correct explanation can be read
> backwards.

Let me try again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
"....Natural selection is the process by which heritable traits that
make it more likely for an organism to survive and successfully
reproduce become more common in a population over successive
generations. It is a key mechanism of evolution...."

:'''rephrase':   ''The  traits that enables reproduction, become more
common.''
"Enables" and "more common" are a play with words that alludes to the
same fact: It says the same thing twice.


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